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  • Richard L.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 1, 1984
    • 191

    pushing without starting C-6

    Is there a way to move a 2008 C-6 around the garage without starting it up? It's an automatic. If so, can someone provide step by step instructions.
    thanks
    Ric
  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15573

    #2
    Re: pushing without starting C-6

    Originally posted by Richard Landeira (7989)
    Is there a way to move a 2008 C-6 around the garage without starting it up? It's an automatic. If so, can someone provide step by step instructions.
    thanks
    Ric
    Is there something wrong with putting the gear shift in neutral and pushing it? I can do that with my 6-speed.
    Terry

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    • Richard L.
      Very Frequent User
      • November 1, 1984
      • 191

      #3
      Re: pushing without starting C-6

      good morning Terry,
      I don't believe that my automatic will move out of park unless the engine is running.

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      • Richard M.
        Super Moderator
        • August 31, 1988
        • 11302

        #4
        Re: pushing without starting C-6

        I do it all the time with my '07 Automatic in my garage if I have to move it by hand gettin' it lined up for the 2-post lift.

        -Make sure you're on level ground.......

        -Get in the car with your Fob.

        -Foot on brake.

        -Push lower portion of START button to put in ACC mode.

        -Shift to Neutral

        -Move car

        When done, put it back in Park by getting in the car again, foot on Brake, Shift back to Park, then hit ACC button to OFF.

        Rich
        p.s. BTW, to crank the Starter without actually starting the engine, on a Auto.....
        Set the E-Brake. Hold your foot on the accelerator pedal hard to the floor, then push the START button. Foot to floor disables the ignition, probably via a signal to the ECM.

        For a Manual, I never have done it, but I'd try it in Neutral as you may need the clutch pedal down too. Set the E-Brake too.

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        • Tom H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • December 1, 1993
          • 3440

          #5
          Re: pushing without starting C-6

          If you hold the ACC mode for about 5 to 7 seconds, you can fool the car into thinking it is running. Even the HUD will work without the engine running if it has it !!
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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15573

            #6
            Re: pushing without starting C-6

            Originally posted by Richard Landeira (7989)
            good morning Terry,
            I don't believe that my automatic will move out of park unless the engine is running.
            No kidding? I guess that shouldn't surprise me given that kind of stuff started with "put your foot on the brake before you can move from park" many many years ago.

            Cheer up. It gets worse. At the Hampton National last Summer the battery on the C7 went TU due to people continually opening the door to test the seating (see, there is an argument for disconnecting the battery when one is inside, except then the doors wouldn't open at all). I suggested to Tom Hill we just push it to the lift so us fanatics could see the underside of the car. That idea was/is a nonstarter. The C7 has electric steering and without a functioning battery the front wheels will not change direction.

            You have my sympathies in your frustration. I would be too.
            Terry

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            • Mike E.
              Very Frequent User
              • June 24, 2012
              • 920

              #7
              Re: pushing without starting C-6

              Do the newer automatics squat when you dropped them in drive like the C3s did? For some reason I always thought that was kinda cool, it seems like the '84 I had did not. To be honest I can remember very little from the eighties.


              Mike

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              • Thomas H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 2005
                • 1053

                #8
                Re: pushing without starting C-6

                Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)

                The C7 has electric steering and without a functioning battery the front wheels will not change direction.
                I'm sure that type of steering system has gone through tons of testing, but the thought of relying on software to control my steering on anything other then a video game makes me a bit nervous...........
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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15573

                  #9
                  Re: pushing without starting C-6

                  Originally posted by Thomas Hoyer (44463)
                  I'm sure that type of steering system has gone through tons of testing, but the thought of relying on software to control my steering on anything other then a video game makes me a bit nervous...........
                  I sympathize with your anxiety, but the freight train is coming and we all had better get off the tracks.

                  Electronic throttle control has been with us for years (I am told at GM it started with trucks, of all things, before Corvettes got it.), and electric steering makes a lot of sense. I think on the C7 it technically it is electric assisted steering. There is still a mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the wheels. The wasted energy (fuel consumption) of the hydraulic power steering pump while the car is traveling down the road is overwhelming compared to the need for the hydraulic assist while parking. With the electric assist one only uses energy when it is needed. How long that heavy mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the front suspension remains is another matter. My thought is that the end is in sight, but we will have to see.
                  Terry

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                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1989
                    • 11608

                    #10
                    Re: pushing without starting C-6

                    Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                    How long that heavy mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the front suspension remains is another matter. My thought is that the end is in sight, but we will have to see.
                    IIRC, Mercedes has already tried it on a car.
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                    • Tom H.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • December 1, 1993
                      • 3440

                      #11
                      Re: pushing without starting C-6

                      Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                      No kidding?That idea was/is a nonstarter. The C7 has electric steering and without a functioning battery the front wheels will not change direction.

                      You have my sympathies in your frustration. I would be too.
                      Totally false. The car will steer, it just won't be powered steering. I push em around the showroom all the time.
                      Tom Hendricks
                      Proud Member NCRS #23758
                      NCM Founding Member # 1143
                      Corvette Department Manager and
                      Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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                      • Terry M.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • September 30, 1980
                        • 15573

                        #12
                        Re: pushing without starting C-6

                        Originally posted by Tom Hendricks (23758)
                        Totally false. The car will steer, it just won't be powered steering. I push em around the showroom all the time.
                        Next time I see Tom Hill I'll tell him. I am only repeating what he told me at Hampton.
                        Terry

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                        • Richard M.
                          Super Moderator
                          • August 31, 1988
                          • 11302

                          #13
                          Re: pushing without starting C-6

                          Originally posted by Tom Hendricks (23758)
                          If you hold the ACC mode for about 5 to 7 seconds, you can fool the car into thinking it is running. Even the HUD will work without the engine running if it has it !!
                          Tom, On the C6 with everything off if you switch the Park or Head lights on it lights up the DIC and shows the odometer mileage. Does that work on the C7 too?

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                          • Bob H.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • July 31, 2000
                            • 789

                            #14
                            Re: pushing without starting C-6

                            If you are not driving it and you need to move it around on a regular basis, put it on dollies. Had to imprvise when I couldn't get my 67 transported prioe to leaving our second home. Thanks to using them, I have my 67 and a car in a single car garage

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                            • Tom H.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • December 1, 1993
                              • 3440

                              #15
                              Re: pushing without starting C-6

                              Originally posted by Richard Mozzetta (13499)
                              Tom, On the C6 with everything off if you switch the Park or Head lights on it lights up the DIC and shows the odometer mileage. Does that work on the C7 too?
                              Richard. Great question. I will answer it with a yes.............. and no. If you come up to a car that has been sitting and not started for a while. Say, a couple of hours. If you reach in through the window and turn on the parking lights, no odometer appears. If you start the car and then shut it down, the odometer will appear in the cluster when the parking lights are activated, but only for a minute or so, then the cluster will not react to the switch. On the other hand, the odometer always appears when the door is opened.
                              Tom Hendricks
                              Proud Member NCRS #23758
                              NCM Founding Member # 1143
                              Corvette Department Manager and
                              Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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