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  • Richard G.
    Very Frequent User
    • December 1, 2001
    • 107

    1969 Shifter Ball

    Is the black Chrome shifter ball in 1969 the same for a 4spd M-2than for a three speed or are the balls different?
  • Mike E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 28, 1975
    • 5134

    #2
    Re: 1969 Shifter Ball

    One and the same.

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    • Richard G.
      Very Frequent User
      • December 1, 2001
      • 107

      #3
      Re: 1969 Shifter Ball

      I've seen part numbers that are very similar, like 3960607, 3960608, even an 09. Any differences?

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43193

        #4
        Re: 1969 Shifter Ball

        Originally posted by Richard Grant (37039)
        I've seen part numbers that are very similar, like 3960607, 3960608, even an 09. Any differences?

        Richard------

        Big differences:


        GM #3960607= 3 speed manual shifter assembly

        GM #3960608= shifter knob

        GM #3960609= 4 speed shifter assembly
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43193

          #5
          Re: 1969 Shifter Ball

          Originally posted by Richard Grant (37039)
          Is the black Chrome shifter ball in 1969 the same for a 4spd M-2than for a three speed or are the balls different?
          Richard-----

          Any minor familiarity I had with 1969 3 speed manual trans cars was over in about 1969. However, vaguely, and I should emphasize EXTREMELY vaguely, I recall that they had a chrome shifter knob.

          While the part number association implies that both the 3 and 4 speed had the black chrome ball, GM parts information indicates something to the contrary. That information specifies that the 1969 with 3 speed manual transmission used knob GM #3857160. This is the same chrome knob used for all 1964-68 manual transmission shifters. The GM #3960608 black chrome knob is specified for 1969 (and later) with 4 speed manual transmission.

          Does anyone out there have an original 1969 with 3 speed with known-original shifter knob that we can use for reference?
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Richard G.
            Very Frequent User
            • December 1, 2001
            • 107

            #6
            Re: 1969 Shifter Ball

            Joe, as usual, thanks! I have a benchmarked/regional top flight 17k mile 69 L71. The car was built in the last two weeks of production and the shifter ball is chrome. I've had a number of parts on the car questioned over the years and proven correct, so I don't like changing anything. This is literally my only interior deduct and I hate to change it. There were a number of oddities on the car since it was such a late build, but I was trying to see which is the real correct shifter. The 07 I thought was a three spd, but I haven't seen a 3spd 69 that I could remember, maybe one in all my years of Vette restoration. Thanks again.

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43193

              #7
              Re: 1969 Shifter Ball

              Originally posted by Richard Grant (37039)
              Joe, as usual, thanks! I have a benchmarked/regional top flight 17k mile 69 L71. The car was built in the last two weeks of production and the shifter ball is chrome. I've had a number of parts on the car questioned over the years and proven correct, so I don't like changing anything. This is literally my only interior deduct and I hate to change it. There were a number of oddities on the car since it was such a late build, but I was trying to see which is the real correct shifter. The 07 I thought was a three spd, but I haven't seen a 3spd 69 that I could remember, maybe one in all my years of Vette restoration. Thanks again.

              Richard-------


              There were only 252 1969 Corvettes built with 3 speed manual transmission. I'll bet a good number of these were converted to 4 speed somewhere along the way.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Kenneth B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 1984
                • 2084

                #8
                Re: 1969 Shifter Ball

                I have only seen one 1969 3 speed. A guy had is for sale outside a car show in Auburn In. It was a base conv. 3 speed with a radio. It probably was a dealer bait & switch Corvette. I can remember the adds. lowest Corvette prices in town . Dealers did it a lot back when we all ordered what we wanted & not the cookie cutter off the lot sale. The shifter & ball looked just like the 4-speed ones. The shift plate was the only difference I saw. I would have bought it had it been a 4-speed. Told the guy it was a rare car but that hardly anyone would want it.
                65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                • Mark D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • June 30, 1988
                  • 2142

                  #9
                  Re: 1969 Shifter Ball

                  Originally posted by Richard Grant (37039)
                  ... so I don't like changing anything.
                  3-speed 69's are rare for a reason. I'm not into telling folks what they should or shouldn't do but, I recommend leaving the chrome ball in place, if you feel it is correct.
                  Kramden

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #10
                    Re: 1969 Shifter Ball

                    Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
                    I have only seen one 1969 3 speed. A guy had is for sale outside a car show in Auburn In. It was a base conv. 3 speed with a radio. It probably was a dealer bait & switch Corvette. I can remember the adds. lowest Corvette prices in town . Dealers did it a lot back when we all ordered what we wanted & not the cookie cutter off the lot sale. The shifter & ball looked just like the 4-speed ones. The shift plate was the only difference I saw. I would have bought it had it been a 4-speed. Told the guy it was a rare car but that hardly anyone would want it.

                    Kenneth------


                    One very obvious difference between the 3 speed and 4 speed shifters was the fact that the 3 speed did not have the reverse lock-out "T" handle. So, from this aspect alone, the 3 and 4 speed shifters are easily identified.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Kenneth B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • August 31, 1984
                      • 2084

                      #11
                      Re: 1969 Shifter Ball

                      Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                      Kenneth------One very obvious difference between the 3 speed and 4 speed shifters was the fact that the 3 speed did not have the reverse lock-out "T" handle. So, from this aspect alone, the 3 and 4 speed shifters are easily identified.
                      Again you are right. I only remember it was a original looking shifter & chrome ball & not a Hurst shifter.
                      65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                      What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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