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  • Jack O.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 31, 1996
    • 525

    Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

    I pulled my trans mount and can't remember whether it always had this separation in the rubber and don't know if it was originally made in this manner. I attached a picture. Can someone tell me if this is how it was made or has mine separated? If separated I will replace it first thing to see if it's causing my 3rd gear shifter vibration.Thanks,Jack
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    Jack Ottofaro
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

    Good candidate to be replaced.
    Dick Whittington

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    • Kurt G.
      Very Frequent User
      • April 30, 2005
      • 343

      #3
      Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

      Jack, stick a fork in that one. It's done.
      Kurt Geis
      Chairman, Midway USA Chapter
      Targa Blue 1972, Top Flight and Duntov Award, 2014
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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43193

        #4
        Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

        Originally posted by Jack Ottofaro (28026)
        I pulled my trans mount and can't remember whether it always had this separation in the rubber and don't know if it was originally made in this manner. I attached a picture. Can someone tell me if this is how it was made or has mine separated? If separated I will replace it first thing to see if it's causing my 3rd gear shifter vibration.Thanks,Jack

        Jack------

        For comparison, here is what an NOS GM mount [not for sale] looks like:


        DSCN2939.jpgDSCN2940.jpg
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Jim T.
          Expired
          • March 1, 1993
          • 5351

          #5
          Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

          Joe, Are the mounts still available from GM?

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43193

            #6
            Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

            Originally posted by Jim Trekell (22375)
            Joe, Are the mounts still available from GM?

            Jim-----


            No, the last GM piece was discontinued without supercession about 7 years ago.

            By the way, the last available GM mount carried a GM list price of over $125 when it was discontinued. Compare that to the price of current replacements. Do you think there's a difference besides price? I do.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Joe R.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • July 31, 1976
              • 4547

              #7
              Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

              Yes, there may be a difference but there is no reason to purchase an NOS one from E-Babe and pay a stupid price when the rear support is available from many suppliers at $13.00 each. And made in the USA!

              JR

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43193

                #8
                Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

                Originally posted by Joe Ray (1011)
                Yes, there may be a difference but there is no reason to purchase an NOS one from E-Babe and pay a stupid price when the rear support is available from many suppliers at $13.00 each. And made in the USA!

                JR

                JR------


                I was not aware that any of these replacement mounts were made in the USA.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Joe R.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 1976
                  • 4547

                  #9
                  Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

                  Joe,

                  According to the owner of Volunteer Vette in Knoxville, TN. he will not sell any suspension support or drivetrain component that is not made in the USA.
                  Straight from the horses (XXX) er, mouth!

                  JR

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                  • Jack O.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • July 31, 1996
                    • 525

                    #10
                    Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

                    Thanks everyone for checking it out. I would have replaced it long ago, even before I noticed the large separation, but the only ones I've found - CC, Paragon, Dr. Rebuild - are imported so far as I know. I'm going to replace it regardless, but if anyone does know of someone making one in US let me know please.
                    Jack
                    Jack Ottofaro

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                    • Joe R.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 2006
                      • 1822

                      #11
                      Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

                      Jack,

                      That's funny, Joe Ray answered the question three minutes before you asked it!

                      Joe

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                      • Jack O.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • July 31, 1996
                        • 525

                        #12
                        Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

                        Just called and left a message...
                        Jack Ottofaro

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43193

                          #13
                          Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

                          Originally posted by Joe Ray (1011)
                          Joe,

                          According to the owner of Volunteer Vette in Knoxville, TN. he will not sell any suspension support or drivetrain component that is not made in the USA.
                          Straight from the horses (XXX) er, mouth!

                          JR
                          JR-------


                          Well, I don't know where he gets them because I don't know of a USA manufacturing source for these mounts. In addition, the mount they show on their web-site appears suspiciously identical to the foreign-made mounts I've seen.

                          However, just because the mounts are foreign-made does not necessarily mean they're bad. As I've said before, if one doesn't want foreign made parts on their car, then definitely don't buy a new car, including a Corvette. There are an absolute PLETHORA of foreign made parts on new cars, including all American makes.

                          As far as functionality goes, I'm sure these foreign made mounts will be just fine. As far as durability goes, I don't know. In any event, and notwithstanding the apparent claims made by Volunteer Vette regarding their mounts, the foreign made mounts are "the only game in town".
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Jack O.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • July 31, 1996
                            • 525

                            #14
                            Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

                            I agree Joe - I'm not banking on Volunteer having a Made in USA, particularly for $13! In fact, I went ahead and bought one from NAPA - $7 Anchor, made in Korea - and it looks closer to the original then what I see on most of the Vette sites.
                            The other big thing I noticed is my old one has lost 1/2" or more in height. I thought it was great that the car still has the original spacer used for sidepipe cars which is only, what about 1/8", meanwhile I've lost 1/2"!
                            Jack
                            Jack Ottofaro

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43193

                              #15
                              Re: Picture of my trans mount - should the rubber have a separation?

                              Originally posted by Jack Ottofaro (28026)
                              I agree Joe - I'm not banking on Volunteer having a Made in USA, particularly for $13! In fact, I went ahead and bought one from NAPA - $7 Anchor, made in Korea - and it looks closer to the original then what I see on most of the Vette sites.
                              The other big thing I noticed is my old one has lost 1/2" or more in height. I thought it was great that the car still has the original spacer used for sidepipe cars which is only, what about 1/8", meanwhile I've lost 1/2"!
                              Jack

                              Jack------

                              Age induced compression is a very common problem with these mounts. Some folks think these things are solid rubber. However, they are not. They are "hollow". What creates the impression they are solid is that, on the ends of the rubber, they often appear solid. However, there is only a very thin layer of rubber over the "hollow" portion of the mount. One can usually poke through it with one's finger. So, over time, the rubber permanently compresses down into the "hollow" area.

                              Anchor is and was a major manufacturer of engine/transmission mounts. It's possible they were even the manufacturer of the original GM pieces. In "days-of-old" all of their product was made in USA. However, I don't think that any of it is now. Korea is a prime manufacturing location for these now. Once again, just because it's foreign-manufactured does not mean it's bad. However, one thing that creates some concern on my part is that the steel component of these mounts is usually thinner than on the originals. That might not make any difference but it does concern me.
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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