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  • Gene M.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1985
    • 4232

    Parts Removal for Flight Judging

    Flight judging requires the air cleaner assembly, distributor top ignition shield, spare tire lock, spare tire lid down exposing spare, jack and handle to all come off, floor mats and glove box contents be looked at for judging. A few years ago Roy asked that other parts, oil cap, rad cap, battery caps, gas cap, dip sticks, power steering caps to remain in place. What about other removable parts not considered service or inspection caps? Such as lighter, ash tray, c3 stowage box trays, or any other interior or body parts?
  • Keith B.
    Very Frequent User
    • March 7, 2008
    • 928

    #2
    Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

    the judges will look at all of those items

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    • Gene M.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 1, 1985
      • 4232

      #3
      Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

      Originally posted by Keith Brodbeck (14640)
      the judges will look at all of those items
      That may well be the case, But what is Roy and/or Dave's ruling on parts removal. There is not much said in the reference manual on this. Roy's request items in the engine bay, gas caps remain stationary, and that was in his judging chairmans message of the Restorer quite a time back.

      Hopefully Dave will chime in.

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      • Michael J.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 27, 2009
        • 7073

        #4
        Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

        The new '67 manual states the owner is to remove the ash tray for judging. On the lighter, there are markings and other features that require it to be out to be judged, so I am assuming this would be done by the owner, but it doesn't specify that.
        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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        • Harry S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 2002
          • 5258

          #5
          Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

          We as judges should never remove anything. It should always be the owner. Remember judge if you remove it and it breaks you buy one for the owner. I know the owner signed to hold us harmless, but.............do the right thing!


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          • Jaime G.
            Very Frequent User
            • April 1, 1988
            • 480

            #6
            Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

            The items you mentioned, i.e. shielding, spare tire lock, air cleaner lid, jack and jack tools should be removed.
            The other items should remain in pace until the judges request that you, the owner remove them or as in the case
            of the lighter insert it to make sure it glows and I operational. Jugs are instructed to not remove or handle parts
            being judged. We should respect the cars.

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            • Ara G.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 31, 2008
              • 1108

              #7
              Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

              Gene, all the items you mentioned will be taken off for judging Except the radiator cap. I have been to a lot of meets, and never have we asked an owner to take off the radiator cap. Not knowing when ops was done, we have no way of knowing if there is pressure still in the radiator. That could cause injury and damage to the car. However, the other items should be taken off the can ONLY once a judge asks the owner to do so. In fact, for interiors I usually ask the owner to open the glove box door for me....ARA

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              • Chris S.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 1, 2000
                • 1064

                #8
                Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

                I have been asked to remove the gas cap and lighter
                I have not been asked to remove the rad cap or dipstick ....
                1954 Corvette #3803 - Top Flight 2012, Bloomington Gold 2012,
                Triple Diamond Award 2012, Gold Concourse Award 2012, Regional and National Top Flight 2014
                1954 Corvette #3666 - "The Blue Devil" - Pennant Blue - restoration started
                1957 Corvette - FI 3 sp - Black and Silver

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43193

                  #9
                  Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

                  All-------


                  I understand a new judging classification is in the offing. To be called "Excalibur" it will require the car to be completely disassembled on the judging field. This will include complete disassembly of the engine, transmission, differential, interior, etc, etc. Master judges will then scrutinize every individual part for originality and condition. No stone will be left unturned. Cars with a score of 99% will receive the "Excalibur" award. All cars must be re-assembled by the owner and removed from the judging field no later than the end of the event.

                  Yes, I'm just joking. I get to kid once-in-awhile, don't I?
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Tracy C.
                    Expired
                    • July 31, 2003
                    • 2739

                    #10
                    Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

                    Yeah, the rumor is that there is one guy who will bring in a truckload of NOS parts and just build his car out of boxes to save the disassembly time. Didn't catch a name but the word is the car will be "not for sale" when complete..

                    tc

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                    • Edward J.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • September 15, 2008
                      • 6940

                      #11
                      Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

                      Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                      All-------I understand a new judging classification is in the offing. To be called "Excalibur" it will require the car to be completely disassembled on the judging field. This will include complete disassembly of the engine, transmission, differential, interior, etc, etc. Master judges will then scrutinize every individual part for originality and condition. No stone will be left unturned. Cars with a score of 99% will receive the "Excalibur" award. All cars must be re-assembled by the owner and removed from the judging field no later than the end of the event.Yes, I'm just joking. I get to kid once-in-awhile, don't I?
                      Joe I heard that all the part numbers were going to be verified by you on these cars. Don't forget to bring your books, and get a good night sleep before the event.
                      New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                      • Mark D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 1988
                        • 2142

                        #12
                        Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

                        If I judge Mech I shortly after the Ops judges finish, I like to ask the OJ to remove the radiator cap. There is no better entertainment than watching Ol' Faithful on the judging field.
                        Kramden

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                        • Neil C.
                          Expired
                          • February 14, 2015
                          • 50

                          #13
                          Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

                          For A 66 BB 427 ????Removing the Complete Ignition Shield OFF Upper and the Body as well or just The Top Part of it?? if just the top you cant see the Distributor ID Band Can you???? If the Bottom needs to be OFF then The nuts that hold the Spark Plug Radio Metal Shielding Lugs are way hard to get on and off so Remove in advance?? Thanks ... The Spare/Jack Air Cleaner are simple ,but those little easy to loose and hard to get to Nuts are a pain.....both on and off..Thoughts????

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                          • Page C.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • February 1, 1979
                            • 802

                            #14
                            Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

                            Removing the top cover on the BB ignition shielding is enough to see distributor cap and coil. The band on the distributor can usually be seen below the main body of the shielding.

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                            • Neil C.
                              Expired
                              • February 14, 2015
                              • 50

                              #15
                              Re: Parts Removal for Flight Judging

                              Yes I see that upon closer inspection... Praise The L... You dont have to take the spark plug wire shield grommets off the Shield Post .Hard getting on without losing the lill guys..Guess I need a Jewlers Nut Driver to hold em tight...Regards

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