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  • Mike E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 28, 1975
    • 5134

    Hurst shifter with GM part number?

    Looks like a GM part number to me. Don't know much about this, except it came with a '70 I bought a while back. Owner had had a 57, a 66, a 70, etc. Was from a small town, and very loyal to the small town dealer. All three cars had Hursts in them in the past. PO has had several strokes, and is unable to help with remembering where it was purchased. I can't imagine that's a GM number, yet if GM issued numbers for Halibrands and other things to homologate them for racing, who knows what else they did.
    Thanks for any input!P3272610.jpg
  • Peter M.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 30, 2013
    • 358

    #2
    Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

    Hi Mike,It has been a long time, but I seem to remember a period of time when Hurst part numbers were similar to GM numbers. I think you usually will find a group number beside the part number on a GM box. Just my thoughts.Regards

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    • Jerry K.
      Frequent User
      • December 1, 1981
      • 93

      #3
      Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

      My brother bought a new 1964 Buick Skylark with a Hurst shifter installed from the factory.

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      • Ken A.
        Very Frequent User
        • July 31, 1986
        • 929

        #4
        Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

        Hurst Oldsmobile???

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        • Wayne C.
          Expired
          • September 30, 1987
          • 28

          #5
          Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

          mike, I believe the 291 number is the shifter mechanism itself and the 373 number is the installation kit with all the hardware.

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43193

            #6
            Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

            Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
            Looks like a GM part number to me. Don't know much about this, except it came with a '70 I bought a while back. Owner had had a 57, a 66, a 70, etc. Was from a small town, and very loyal to the small town dealer. All three cars had Hursts in them in the past. PO has had several strokes, and is unable to help with remembering where it was purchased. I can't imagine that's a GM number, yet if GM issued numbers for Halibrands and other things to homologate them for racing, who knows what else they did.
            Thanks for any input![ATTACH=CONFIG]51930[/ATTACH]

            Mike------

            If it were a GM part number it would be a Chevrolet part number from about 1957. However, I cannot find any record that this number ever existed as a released part number.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • David L.
              Expired
              • July 31, 1980
              • 3310

              #7
              Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

              Mike,

              Assembly line 3 and 4-speed Hurst shifters were installed on some but not all 64-72 LeMans, GTO, Grand Prix models, 68-78 Firebirds, and 70-71 Z28 & Camaro SS models. The Hurst shifter mechanisms did not have "stops" and were date coded. The chrome Hurst shifters handles had a 4-digit code stamped on the bottom end. The chrome shifter handles "clipped" into the shifter mechanism (not bolted on).

              Does the lever "clip" into the mechanism or is it bolted on?

              Dave

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              • G B.
                Expired
                • December 1, 1974
                • 1407

                #8
                You're right.

                "mike, I believe the 291 number is the shifter mechanism itself and the 373 number is the installation kit with all the hardware."



                Hurst used a seven digit part number system during the sixties and seventies. They may still use it today for all I know.

                The first three digits represented the "type" of part. For example, part numbers beginning with 291 were all Competition Plus Kits. These kits included everything needed for installation: a shifter, an adapter plate, and all linkage. The last four digits represented a specific application. Part number 291 8369 was a Competition Plus Kit for a '69 - '74 Corvette with a Muncie 4-speed.

                The Linkage Kit was also sold separately. Linkage (only) Kit part numbers all started with 373. Linkage Kit 373 8370 was for the '69 - '74 Corvette Muncie application.

                My guess is that the part number sticker in the photo came off the 373 8370 Linkage Kit that Hurst inserted inside a 291 8369 Competition Plus Kit box. That Competition Plus Kit box also included a 391 7992 Shifter (only) box.

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                • Wayne M.
                  Expired
                  • March 1, 1980
                  • 6414

                  #9
                  Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

                  Originally posted by David Liukkonen (3775)
                  ......The chrome Hurst shifters handles had a 4-digit code stamped on the bottom end. The chrome shifter handles "clipped" into the shifter mechanism (not bolted on). ......
                  Here's the one I removed from my L78 in the early '90s. One of the previous owners installed it (new) around 1969 or 70. You can see the number "2705" stamped into the bottom of the shaft. The C2 rubber shift boot neck is located just above the surface corrosion. This assembly is for Corvette (maybe others) and can be identified by the dog-leg reverse lever. Hurst is neat, insofar as all the levers, rods, and mounting plates are stamped with 4-digit codes.
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                  • David L.
                    Expired
                    • July 31, 1980
                    • 3310

                    #10
                    Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

                    Wayne,

                    Your Hurst shifter is the aftermarket type since the chrome handle is bolted to the shifter mechanism and there appears to be threaded holes for the bolt stops. My "Vintage Hurst Shifter" book by Pete Serio only lists the 4-digit numbers for assembly line Hurst shifters (Pontiac models and Camaros). The 6-digit number (example "578857") stamped just to the right of "HURST COMPETITION/PLUS" is the Hurst shifter serial number for aftermarket shifters only. An assembly line Hurst shifter (starting about 1969 or so) would have a 8-digit stamped number (example "0300332M" where "030" = March 1970) in this same location. The 1964-1968+/- assembly line Hurst shifters would have a date code stamped just below the "HURST COMPETITION/PLUS" (example: "2-5-B-2" where "2-5" = Feb. 1965).

                    Dave

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                    • Wayne M.
                      Expired
                      • March 1, 1980
                      • 6414

                      #11
                      Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

                      Originally posted by David Liukkonen (3775)
                      Wayne,

                      Your Hurst shifter is the aftermarket type since the chrome handle is bolted to the shifter mechanism and there appears to be threaded holes for the bolt stops.
                      Dave -- my previous post was mainly to show the stamped # on the base of the shifter lever, (which you'd mentioned) so maybe the angle didn't show the other points you state. I know my Hurst shifter is aftermarket, unless there's a Corvette RPO that's been kept secret.

                      But my chrome handle is definitely NOT bolted to the shifter mechanism. Maybe you're mistaking the "pin" (with a locking nut) which controls side-to-side selection of the shifter handle. I'm adding a picture below which shows that the lever extends deep into the mechanism, and is attached to the [larger/lower] spring-loaded pin/shaft ? with 2 roll pins. The entire lever is chrome (just like C2's).

                      Interesting points on the stamped #s. Mine is 533354, which I guess ties into a production calendar somehow.
                      Attached Files

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                      • David L.
                        Expired
                        • July 31, 1980
                        • 3310

                        #12
                        Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

                        Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)

                        I know my Hurst shifter is aftermarket, unless there's a Corvette RPO that's been kept secret.

                        But my chrome handle is definitely NOT bolted to the shifter mechanism. Maybe you're mistaking the "pin" (with a locking nut) which controls side-to-side selection of the shifter handle. I'm adding a picture below which shows that the lever extends deep into the mechanism, and is attached to the [larger/lower] spring-loaded pin/shaft ? with 2 roll pins. The entire lever is chrome (just like C2's).

                        Interesting points on the stamped #s. Mine is 533354, which I guess ties into a production calendar somehow.
                        Wayne,

                        I have never really studied the aftermarket Hurst shifters that much. I now see how the very bottom of the chrome handle is between the two pins. The real "giveaway" that tells me that your shifter is an aftermarket is the threaded holes for the bolt stops. The 6-digit stamped ("533354") might somehow tie into a production date but Pete Serio calls it a shifter serial number as he shows a photo of a Hurst shifter with the stamped number "578857" along with a guarantee registration card with the same number (page 33).

                        As far as I know I initiated the date code theory on the assembly line Hurst shifters (refer to the Nasty Z28 forum). Pete Serio never studied the assembly line Hurst shifter date codes. I noticed it after collecting about a half dozen assembly line 4-speed Hurst shifter for my 1970 Camaro SS350 loooooooooong term project (1990 to date).

                        Dave

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                        • Loren L.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 30, 1976
                          • 4104

                          #13
                          Re: Hurst shifter with GM part number?

                          Mike, what happens when you "Google" the "part #"?

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                          • Thomas F.
                            Expired
                            • November 11, 2008
                            • 204

                            #14
                            Hurst Shifter Identification

                            This is what is stamped on the side of my Hurst Shifter.

                            HURST COMPETITION/PLUS
                            Patent Pending
                            414654

                            Can anyone help me identify what year this might be?

                            I'm still trying to figure out how to attach a picture. Thanks.

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                            • Thomas B.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • October 11, 2021
                              • 297

                              #15
                              Re: Hurst Shifter Identification

                              My 63 has an original appearing shift lever with the reverse lockout “tee” handle but I found I was able to shift into reverse without using the lock out mechanism. Took the console plate out to investigate and found what I believe is a Hurst shifter. Just by comparing it to pics of Hurst shifters. Previous owner must have changed it from the original factory shifter.

                              Can’t see any numbers on it but appears to be a Hurst Competition Plus.
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