Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

[Mark D.]

Does anyone have a source for Lucite black lacquer?

Thanks

[Duke W.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

That Tuxedo Black acrylic lacquer formula was used by GM on all black lacquer jobs for the two decades that they painted cars with acrylic lacquer. My Cosworth Vega uses the same formula.

PPG's product number is DDL9300, and it's a "factory pack", which means dealer lacquer mixing equipment to add tints is not required. You just thin and shoot as it comes out of the factory container.

So check with your local PPG dealer to see if it's still available. (It's been awhile since I bought any.) I don't think there's any difference between major brands. They all use the same technology and materials and are subject to the same material availability and environmental restrictions.

Duke

[Mark D.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

Does anyone have a source for Lucite black lacquer?


Thanks

[Domenic T.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

Mark,
If you have a C1 car you can get the original black laquer from Aircraft spruce. They call it nitrate dope and the best part is that it is straight laquer like the 400 black GM used before the acrylc came out.
I personally think the straight laquer out lasted the acrylic 10 to 1 and I would use it in any black application as it is pure to the base and you can polish it to a high gloss till you start seeing the primer.
The acrylic rises to the surface and once you buff thru it it's over and the acrylic will check (spider cracks).
They have nitrate & butyrate and it was explained to me that the nitrate was a laquer and it burned faster than butyrate.
They also have the retarders if you are painting on a humid day.

DOM

[Dick W.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

Beware, there are two blacks, 99L and 99S. Cars in the early '70's and prior were painted in 99L. That formula was discontinued in the mid to late '70's and 99S was the substitute. When sprayed on letdown panels, the L turns brown hued when side by side with the S formula.

Tom Ames would be a good resource. PPG, RM, and I think Inmont were alternate suppliers to Generous Motors for years.

[Mark D.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

Does anyone have a source for Lucite black lacquer?

thanks

[Bob J.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

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Does anyone have a source for Lucite black lacquer?

thanks

That would depend on the quantity needed.

[Dick W.]

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That would depend on the quantity needed.

That is the black formula that was used beginning in the late '70's or early '80's

[Mark D.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

JMB

That is exactly what I need! A gallon would be great!

Piper

[Bob J.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

That is the black formula that was used beginning in the late '70's or early '80's

Dickie, yes that is correct.
From memory, the "S" formula was lead free. Bob

[Dick W.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

Dickie, yes that is correct.
From memory, the "S" formula was lead free. Bob

But it is a lot blacker that the L formula. I tried spotting a '78 Vette, that the trim tag called for 99L, with 99S (which was all I could get in the mid '80's). Took a lot of tinting to ever match the color. Hard to pull black to brown

Think I still have a factory pack quart of 99L somewhere here. Found it after I had all the trouble with the '78.

[Dick W.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

Dickie, yes that is correct.
From memory, the "S" formula was lead free. Bob

The lead was still in the S formula in the era that I was talking about. Just had more black in the tinting color. Du Pont changed the tints

[Bob J.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

DW, I'm not a painter and don't pretend to be.
I remember being told S had no lead, it could very well be a different color of black.
I did look on the S can and lead isn't listed for whatever that is worth. Bob

[Dick W.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

DW, I'm not a painter and don't pretend to be.
I remember being told S had no lead, it could very well be a different color of black.
I did look on the S can and lead isn't listed for whatever that is worth. Bob

I will look later this weekend, I think I still have both formulas

[Tracy C.]

Re: Dupont Tuxedo Black Lacquer

Mark,

I have a source in Wichita, in fact I have two extra gallons in my basement with no where to go...

tc