survivor without original engine??

[Anthony S.]

Really?...was told that a car was a survivor and the car does not have the orginal engine? I can't really agree...

[Dick W.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

ROTFLMAO. . Sounds like a fairy tail, Once upon a time

[Michael J.]

[Harry S.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

Isn't a survivor without the original engine an oxymoron?

[Michael J.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

Isn't a survivor without the original engine an oxymoron?

[Patrick H.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

Actually, until this year you could get a Survivor Award from Bloomington without having the original engine. You only needed to pass 3 of 4 areas on the car, and if you passed the other 3 areas, you got the award.

So yes, it is possible.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

Whadda joke

Again It's all abut the money. As I remember it was like that when BG started that award.

[Gene M.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

Actually, until this year you could get a Survivor Award from Bloomington without having the original engine. You only needed to pass 3 of 4 areas on the car, and if you passed the other 3 areas, you got the award.

So yes, it is possible.

Assuming at the other 3 sections are good. Does that allow for a Corvette to obtain a Survivor Award with a "409" engine?

[Patrick H.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

Assuming at the other 3 sections are good. Does that allow for a Corvette to obtain a Survivor Award with a "409" engine?

Up until this year, yes.

[Terry M.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

Assuming at the other 3 sections are good. Does that allow for a Corvette to obtain a Survivor Award with a "409" engine?

Gene,
Are you still looking for the C1 409 to put through BJ?

[Gene M.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

Gene,
Are you still looking for the C1 409 to put through BJ?

No, but I was thinking. If one was to build a resto mod style Corvette using an after market tube frame modified to accept all the original components. The points loss would be less than one percentage point. Full deduct for frame. Now everything would need to mount and be assembled just as original to avoid points loss on those items.

By point allocation, do the math, it would be possible to top flight without the single biggest piece of the car (frame) being remotely correct.

[Terry M.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

No, but I was thinking. If one was to build a resto mod style Corvette using an after market tube frame modified to accept all the original components. The points loss would be less than one percentage point. Full deduct for frame. Now everything would need to mount and be assembled just as original to avoid points loss on those items.

By point allocation, do the math, it would be possible to top flight without the single biggest piece of the car (frame) being remotely correct.

Of course, given the low points assigned to the frame mostly because it is very difficult to adequately judge the bulk of the frame. Secondarily there are so many small pieces to the chassis there are few points available to move to the frame should one be so inclined.
I think some might argue that the engine is the largest piece of the car. It is certainly the weightiest, and many would argue the most important.

[Gene M.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

Of course, given the low points assigned to the frame mostly because it is very difficult to adequately judge the bulk of the frame. Secondarily there are so many small pieces to the chassis there are few points available to move to the frame should one be so inclined.
I think some might argue that the engine is the largest piece of the car. It is certainly the weightiest, and many would argue the most important.

Most important vs largest points persons in different directions. But your point that the engine is most important is justified. If I was looking to buy a car with a rusty frame I can fix/repair and restore it. But if the original engine block has a crack thru the lifter bores, I'd walk away.

So yes engine #1, then virgin body with good bird cage also #1, and frame #2. It all depends on one's skill set. I can assure you birdcage work is no fun. Good discussion but I'm starting to get off topic. sorry

[Terry M.]

Re: survivor without original engine??

Most important vs largest points persons in different directions. But your point that the engine is most important is justified. If I was looking to buy a car with a rusty frame I can fix/repair and restore it. But if the original engine block has a crack thru the lifter bores, I'd walk away.

So yes engine #1, then virgin body with good bird cage also #1, and frame #2. It all depends on one's skill set. I can assure you birdcage work is no fun. Good discussion but I'm starting to get off topic. sorry

And I am enabling you. Sorry. Back to the regularly scheduled topic.