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  • Gary H.
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    • June 8, 2008
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    1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

    What would be better for maximum judging points? I have two owners manuals. My original heavily is worn, with water damage and folded pages, but has intact Corvette News Card. I found another original a few weeks ago that is in excellent condition, but has no corvette news card and does not look like it ever did have one. Both are 2nd printing which is correct for my july car.
  • Dave S.
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    • August 31, 1992
    • 2918

    #2
    Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

    Originally posted by Gary Haftel (49128)
    What would be better for maximum judging points? I have two owners manuals. My original heavily is worn, with water damage and folded pages, but has intact Corvette News Card. I found another original a few weeks ago that is in excellent condition, but has no corvette news card and does not look like it ever did have one. Both are 2nd printing which is correct for my july car.
    Gary,
    All originals had Corvette News cards.

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    • Gary H.
      Expired
      • June 8, 2008
      • 308

      #3
      Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

      20140606_071710.jpg pics of both manuals

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      • Gary H.
        Expired
        • June 8, 2008
        • 308

        #4
        Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

        20140606_071813.jpg I just noticed that my original has part number 3955549 and the other manual I bought shows 3955551. Is this a service manual?

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        • Reba W.
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          • June 30, 1985
          • 932

          #5
          Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

          I don't have the AIM handy but it lists the part number of an original. (Joe will know it.)

          You would lose some (not total) for not having an original manual and probably some condition on the original one. The point loss should be about the same, just in different columns. If you look at the point total, it is one point for each item and some judges are lenient.

          As an interior judge, I would like to see the original one. I look forward to seeing your car in KC.

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          • Dave S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • August 31, 1992
            • 2918

            #6
            Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

            Originally posted by Reba Whittington (8804)
            I don't have the AIM handy but it lists the part number of an original. (Joe will know it.)

            You would lose some (not total) for not having an original manual and probably some condition on the original one. The point loss should be about the same, just in different columns. If you look at the point total, it is one point for each item and some judges are lenient.

            As an interior judge, I would like to see the original one. I look forward to seeing your car in KC.
            I share Reba's comments. Original is most always better.

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            • Floyd B.
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              • November 1, 2002
              • 1046

              #7
              Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

              I'm resurrecting this thread because I can't find information on early '69 Owners Manuals. My Oct '68 build car came with an old/worn owners manual but I'm pretty sure it's an old reproduction - part # 3955551, Dec 1968. Obviously this couldn't have come with my Oct '68 car (unless GM had a problem printing owners manuals in late '68). The AIM only lists part number 3955551 (2nd Edition) and there is no revision note for the manual. My questions are:

              1) what was the part number for early '69 cars (perhaps 3955551, 1st Edition?)
              2) What was the revision date for the version of manual that came with early '69 cars?
              3) Did the early '69 edition manuals include the Corvette News card?

              Thanx
              '69 Blue/Blue L36 Vert w/ 4-Spd
              '73 Blue/Blue L48 Coupe w/ 4-Spd
              '96 Red/Black LT-4 Convertible
              "Drive it like you stole it"

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              • Dave S.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 1992
                • 2918

                #8
                Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

                Originally posted by Floyd Berus (38878)
                I'm resurrecting this thread because I can't find information on early '69 Owners Manuals. My Oct '68 build car came with an old/worn owners manual but I'm pretty sure it's an old reproduction - part # 3955551, Dec 1968. Obviously this couldn't have come with my Oct '68 car (unless GM had a problem printing owners manuals in late '68). The AIM only lists part number 3955551 (2nd Edition) and there is no revision note for the manual. My questions are:

                1) what was the part number for early '69 cars (perhaps 3955551, 1st Edition?)
                2) What was the revision date for the version of manual that came with early '69 cars?
                3) Did the early '69 edition manuals include the Corvette News card?

                Thanx
                Floyd,

                You would need a first edition OM for a car built that early.
                All original Corvette OM's would have a Corvette News card. Most only have the stub remaining.

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                • Floyd B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • November 1, 2002
                  • 1046

                  #9
                  Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

                  Dave,

                  Where there any noticeable differences between the 1st and 2nd edition manuals?

                  - Were they the same part number?
                  - What was the revision date of the 1st edition manual?

                  Thanx
                  '69 Blue/Blue L36 Vert w/ 4-Spd
                  '73 Blue/Blue L48 Coupe w/ 4-Spd
                  '96 Red/Black LT-4 Convertible
                  "Drive it like you stole it"

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                  • Dave S.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 1992
                    • 2918

                    #10
                    Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

                    Originally posted by Floyd Berus (38878)
                    Dave,

                    Where there any noticeable differences between the 1st and 2nd edition manuals?

                    - Were they the same part number?
                    - What was the revision date of the 1st edition manual?

                    Thanx
                    Floyd,
                    The first edition is part number 3955548. First editions never have revision dates.
                    The second edition is part number 3955549 and is dated Dec 1968.
                    The Helm, Inc. re-issues are pare number3955551. They may or may not have Corvette News cards. I'm not sure.
                    Honestly I'm not sure about the specific differences between first and second edition OM's. One would have to compare them side by side and I've never done that.
                    It could be that there are manuals with 548 and/or 549 that are repros made by someone other than Helm.
                    Get yourself a nice first edition with 1/2 card. It will look just right.

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                    • Jeffrey S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 1988
                      • 1879

                      #11
                      Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

                      Originally posted by Floyd Berus (38878)
                      I'm resurrecting this thread because I can't find information on early '69 Owners Manuals. My Oct '68 build car came with an old/worn owners manual but I'm pretty sure it's an old reproduction - part # 3955551, Dec 1968. Obviously this couldn't have come with my Oct '68 car (unless GM had a problem printing owners manuals in late '68). The AIM only lists part number 3955551 (2nd Edition) and there is no revision note for the manual. My questions are:

                      1) what was the part number for early '69 cars (perhaps 3955551, 1st Edition?)
                      2) What was the revision date for the version of manual that came with early '69 cars?
                      3) Did the early '69 edition manuals include the Corvette News card?

                      Thanx
                      The manual that came with my Oct '68 is part #3955548. It has the full Corvette News card. It is "FIRST EDITION" August 1968.

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                      • Floyd B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • November 1, 2002
                        • 1046

                        #12
                        Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

                        I would then guess this is a pic of a reprint of the first edition. Notice the part number - 3955550

                        FirstEdition.jpg
                        '69 Blue/Blue L36 Vert w/ 4-Spd
                        '73 Blue/Blue L48 Coupe w/ 4-Spd
                        '96 Red/Black LT-4 Convertible
                        "Drive it like you stole it"

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                        • Michael B.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • June 18, 2007
                          • 400

                          #13
                          Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

                          Here is my early 69 Owner's Manual. It has another part number lined out under which says PART NO. 3955550 (Service).

                          It is not original to my car (Oct 68) and I am not sure how this was distributed, with the new car or early over the counter.

                          Also a picture of a late 69 Owner's Manual
                          Attached Files

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                          • Jeffrey S.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • May 31, 1988
                            • 1879

                            #14
                            Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

                            Below are pictures of the Owners' Manual that came with my Oct '68 car.
                            Jeff
                            Attached Files

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                            • Floyd B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • November 1, 2002
                              • 1046

                              #15
                              Re: 1969 Owners manual for maximum judging points

                              Thanx for posting these Jeff. Now I know exactly what I'm looking for.
                              '69 Blue/Blue L36 Vert w/ 4-Spd
                              '73 Blue/Blue L48 Coupe w/ 4-Spd
                              '96 Red/Black LT-4 Convertible
                              "Drive it like you stole it"

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