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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 42936

    #1

    Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

    I know. Your first question is what do big block oil pans have to do with retirement? Well, nothing actually, but I wanted to have a "technical element" to this post, and I wanted to "kill 2 birds with one stone".

    First, the oil pan issue. Recently, I saw a beat up, dented old Corvette big block oil pan sell on eBay for $227.50. This oil pan was, reportedly, a 1968 era SERVICE oil pan which had been installed on a mid year big block and used thusly for 30 years, or so. It had the corner reinforcements, but lacked the hole in the front oil pan seal surface used for the pan-to-timing cover bolt. Why anyone would pay this much money for this oil pan is beyond me. To me, the pan was junk; I would not have paid a dollar for it.

    The currently available GM SERVICE oil pan for 1965-74 Corvette applications, GM #14091356, is identical to the above-referenced oil pan except for 3 things. First, it does not have the corner reinforcements used on all pre-1970 Corvette oil pans. These can be purchased seperately in reproduction and added to the pan. Once installed, whether spot-welded like original or not, NO ONE will be able to tell the difference. Second, the 14091356 oil pan is supplied painted black, inside and out. No problem here, either---the black can serve as a primer and be painted over Chevy orange. NO ONE will know the difference. Last, the pan is supplied as a KIT with the crankcase baffle plate. So, you get a FREE baffle. You can choose to use it or not. The 14091356 oil pan can be purchased for about $120 BRAND NEW. So, why would anyone pay $227.50 for a beat up, used, junk oil pan? BEATS ME!

    Now for the retirement matter. I've decided to retire after a career of 32-1/2 years. December 27 will be my final day in the office. My retirement dinner is scheduled for January 31, 2003 from 6 to 11 PM in the evening. It will be held at the Blackhawk Automotive Museum in Danville, CA. For those that don't know, the Blackhawk Museum is one of the finest, most beautiful, and prestigious automotive museums in the world, is operated by the University of California and is associated with the Smithsonian Institution. All of my "Corvette World Associates" are welcome to attend if they can be in the area at that time. For further information if you're interested in attending, you can e-mail my administrative assistant at joesretirement@yahoo.com. Leave an e-mail address and/or a mailing address and she'll send you a copy of the announcement with further info.

    By the way, IF my 69 "ZL-1" is completed by that time (NO promises, though), it will be on display in the museum that evening.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley
  • Craig S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 1, 1997
    • 2471

    #2
    Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

    Joe - first and foremost...CONGRATULATIONS on your retirement!! Now you will really have time to help us all out, not that I ever noticed one instance where you had a lag in that respect!! So does this mean that those 55 gallon drums of used parts (not for sale) and your stash of NOS parts (not for sale) will get completely organized and cataloged for immediate refernce and information??? Bet that project will take a while, and thx for inviting us to your retirement shindig (I guess that gives me away too...25 years with IBM).

    I watched that same Ebay auction and was truly amazed that dented junk when for that price...lunacy!! There was another that was on Ebay last weekend (same condition, more or less) with poor pictures, and it didn't make reserve, I emailed and the reserve was $50. Still too much but more in line. The 356 pan can be had on Flow Chevy (gmpartsdirect.com or Scoggin-Dickey) for around $110 to the door with the windage tray.

    Heres to best wishes in your retirment, and I guess I better make it out to San Jose one of these days to see that monster! Of course, IBM moving much of it's mission from San Jose to Tucson doesn't increase the need for me to go that way as much...Craig

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    • Duke W.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • January 1, 1993
      • 15229

      #3
      Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

      Craig - I can assure you that Joe's parts are already " completely organized and cataloged" both on paper, on the shelf, and in his head.

      Duke

      P.S. When I left IBM in 1991 I did not get a retirement dinner. I was "escorted" out the door.

      Duke

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 11372

        #4
        Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

        Joe,

        I know that you and I have had the luxury of discussing Corvettes and your upcoming retirement extensively and in person while listening to the surf in Monterey. Congratulations! Remember what John Hinckley says - now every day will be Saturday!

        Patrick
        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Craig S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 1, 1997
          • 2471

          #5
          Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

          Duke - I didn't know you were a Bmer. I hear you on the escort out. Actually, we have done it for everyone I know, but not with IBM funds, through the old good friend buddy system. You wouldn't enjoy it these days, just like all the big tech companies....working 12 hour days, 5 days a week, sometimes weekends, for the love of the company...TJ Watson would squirm in his grave....back when the people were everything, with no layoffs. Now...well....I keep looking to make that magic 30 year mark, at least I still have the old retirment policy, lots of tech co's don't have any retirement policies anymore. Newbies have a super sucky policy at IBM...the times they are a changing...as the song goes.....

          But on Joe's parts, he told me had barrels that need organizing in the back, you sure he is done with all that! Or was he shining me on!.(ha ha)...:D

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          • george romano

            #6
            Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

            Congratulations Joe! Now you and Doc Rebuild can trade pension stories!

            Good luck Joe, and enjoy!

            George

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            • John H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1997
              • 16513

              #7
              Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

              Congratulations, Joe, and best wishes in your retirement - if you enjoy it half as much as I have [not for sale] , you'll wonder why you waited! We look forward to sharing your new career with you, whether they're PRODUCTION, SERVICE, or RETIREMENT years. God Bless you!

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              • John M.
                Expired
                • January 1, 1999
                • 8

                #8
                Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

                Congratulations Joe,
                Here's wishing you much fun and many corvettes in your retirement!

                Regards, John McGraw

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                • John L.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • December 1, 1997
                  • 409

                  #9
                  Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

                  Congratulations Joe on your decision to retire. Ironically, you have chosen to retire on my birthday.

                  john lolli

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                  • Duke W.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • January 1, 1993
                    • 15229

                    #10
                    Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

                    Your right Craig. I forgot about the USED parts.

                    Okay, Joe. Get organized!

                    Duke

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                    • Mark J.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • March 1, 1996
                      • 252

                      #11
                      Congratulations and best wishes

                      I'm jealous, of course.

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                      • Robert B.
                        Expired
                        • December 1, 2000
                        • 7

                        #12
                        Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

                        Thought I would chime in here, I left IBM after 32 years in the FE division in 93. BTW they buried TJ 9 edge face down......
                        Bob Brockett
                        62-300

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                        • Richard L.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • June 1, 1988
                          • 156

                          #13
                          Congratulations, Joe..!!!

                          You're actually doing what I wanted to do next year, except for me a little thing called ENRON popped up, and poof, the dream was gone....

                          Really Happy for You, Joe...

                          Thanks for all of your help and knowledge over the years, and we look forward to seeing you on line 24 hours a day now...

                          Take Care,

                          Rick

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                          • Juliet P.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • July 1, 1999
                            • 349

                            #14
                            Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

                            Congratulations on your retirement Joe! I hope you can share some photos of your ZL-1 (whenever it's ready) so that those of us who can't see it in person can at least enjoy it virtually. ~Juliet
                            2019 Sebring Orange 8-Spd Coupe (daily driver & autocross) 6k mi.
                            1970 Bridgehampton Blue Convertible - Chapter Top Flight 2005 68k mi.
                            1965 Coupe (Greg's project No Flight)
                            Gone but not forgotten:
                            1987 Yellow Convertible 199k mi.
                            2002 Yellow Convertible 100k mi.
                            2007 Atomic Orange Coupe 140k mi. RIP flood 2015
                            2007 Lemans Blue 6-Spd Coupe 34k mi.

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                            • Al C.
                              Expired
                              • August 1, 1999
                              • 273

                              #15
                              Re: Big Block Oil Pans and Retirement

                              Joe -
                              I'm sure that you will enjoy retirement as much as I am, for I don't know how I ever found time to work. The daily urgencies of the workplace are replaced with such personal longer-term issues as finding the right repro parts - a decidedly (sp?) calmer pace, albeit sometimes equally frustrating. Plus, at least a few honey-dos.
                              I hope that you will find time to contine to share your wisdom and knowledge with all of us.
                              ... Al '58 #378 245hp

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