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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43193

    Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

    Last week I took a road trip to Las Vegas to visit with a cousin of mine who was going to be in town for a few days. From there, I drove him to Los Angeles International Airport where he left to return to his "adopted" country, Thailand (he lives in a part of Thailand that was completely unaffected by the tsunami). Thereafter, I drove home. In all, I covered about 1700 miles in the 4 or 5 days that I was gone. Also, it so happens that I used a rental car for the trip (even though I have 4 cars, I sometimes use a rental car for long road trips in the winter). This particular car had XM Satellite Radio, so I had a chance to try it out for the first time. As it turned out, giving that up was the hardest part about bringing the car back. But, my "seperation" didn't last long------the next day I went out and got myself my own XM Radio set-up-----a DELPHI Roady II which can be moved from car-to-car, used at home (I also bought a home kit to hook it up to my stereo system), or, even, used like a "Walkman" if you buy a special mini-docking unit. With XM Satellite Radio, a "permanant" installation (like a factory-installed radio with XM) is NOT the way to go. That's because with XM you pay for a subscription by the number of receivers that you have. So, if one wanted to go with dedicated receivers for, say, 4 cars, home, and portable, that would mean SIX subscriptions.

    Activating the system is quite simple and can be done on-line. It takes about 45 minutes from the time that you initiate the activation to the time that it's complete and you're up-and-running. It costs $9.99 per month (or less if you sign up for longer subscription as I did).

    Believe me, this thing is the best thing that ever happened to cruising. During my trip, I listened to the "60's Music" channel (channel 6) almost exclusively. I heard tunes that I hadn't heard in 30 years which is unlike most FM "Oldies" stations which broadcast the same 100, or so, old songs over-and-over again even though there are 10's of thousands of old songs from the 60's available. If I get tired of the 60's channel (I haven't yet), I have about 100 more channels to choose from. Regardless of your taste in music, "it's in there".

    Best of all, the music channels are all commercial-free (if that ever changes my opinion of XM and my continued subscription may change, too). And, since it's satellite-based, you get all the stations no matter where you are in the US. On my return home from the LA area I took California Highway 33 which goes through some remote areas in the Los Padres National Forest. No problem, at all----the XM radio was with me all the way (except through a few tunnels).

    The biggest challenge of XM radio installations is the antenna. I've got to come up with a "clean" and "no hole" way to install it in all my cars. The Corvettes will be a particular challenge but I'm working it out in my mind.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley
  • Stephen W.
    Very Frequent User
    • March 1, 2002
    • 301

    #2
    Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

    I Fell in love with XM last year when I purchased a new truck. I didn't want the 300.00 option on the truck because I didn't want to pay for what is "free". Well it came with a 3 month free trial period and you guessed it. I got a two year plan before the free period was up. Your also right about the subscription deal because I had to buy my wife one for her truck to keep her out of mine! I got her the Delphi2 and its great! You can even pause and replay songs! Because I now have two subscriptions I get the family plan so its 6.99 a month (each) ... Just not having to listen to stupid commercials is worth every penny.

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    • Rick S.
      Expired
      • January 1, 2003
      • 1203

      #3
      Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

      Joe, What is the warranty on your XM radio? The reason I ask because I went from the Detroit area to Carlisle in a friends new Cadillac Escalade and we got about an hour of "good" use of his satellite radio in 2 days of travel there and back. Once we got away from a metropolitan area the radio became useless. That was his 2nd radio in a 4 month old car. He has a "new" 3rd radio but I haven't had the courage to ask him how this one is working. At least we had the good scenery of Pa. to view and talk about Vettes there and back. Too bad Ohio is worse than southern Michigan to look at!!!

      Rick

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      • Mike M.
        NCRS Past President
        • May 31, 1974
        • 8365

        #4
        Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

        my 4 kids got me a XM system for christmas. almost 200 channels. can listen in my shop, in my willys pickup(ya need to get a sepertate reciever for ech car) and it's 12 bucks a month. can't stand to be without channel 16(country oldies). best tune i've heard yet goes like this "Its hard to kiss the lips at nite, that's chewed your ass all day long". gonna put one in all my drivers. no commercials too bopot. mike

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        • Larry S.
          Very Frequent User
          • August 31, 2000
          • 356

          #5
          Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

          Joe

          I had always belived it was CRIMINAL to have to pay for radio.I fought my wife tooth and nail on this
          I WILL NOT PAY TO LISTEN TO A RADIO!
          Needless to say we had a Cadillac rental car with XM in it while on an exstended vacation in Florida a couple of year back, One of the first things we did when we got home was to get XM radio in all the cars. I love my XM radio and dont think the regular radios are worth even having in the cars or home any longer.And the reception is Crystal clear like a cd playing.You never realize how bad the normal fm station is untill you switch from XM back to FM and youll wonder how you ever put up with normal radio before.We will always chose a rental car now as to weather or not they provide XM radio,and a navagation system

          All I have to say is try it youll love it

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          • Dick W.
            Former NCRS Director Region IV
            • June 30, 1985
            • 10483

            #6
            Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

            Delphi has an adhesive mount antenna that would work on the Vette without drilling holes. You can run the wire along the windshield reveal molding into the door jamb. From there route it down along the weatherstrip to a convient point to route it into the interior. Conceal under trim, molding, etc until you get to the vehicle mount. I would suggest that you purchase the FM modulator cigar lighter power plug. The inline FM modulator killed my standard FM reception. I removed it and went with the plug.

            Enjoy it as much as I do. I have a kit in three vehicles, two farm tractors, my camper, and my house.
            Dick Whittington

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • June 30, 1985
              • 10483

              #7
              Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

              By the way, it stays on 24/7 somewhere. I listen to it continiously
              Dick Whittington

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              • Craig S.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • June 30, 1997
                • 2471

                #8
                Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

                Joe - how does it feed into the existing radios in the car? Into a preamp stage? I have had Hertz rentals frequently with CIRRUS as I recall, but didn't find stations I liked (I am a classic rock and roll junkie, 60's to mid 70's before disco). Thx, Craig

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                • Larry S.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • August 31, 2000
                  • 356

                  #9
                  Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

                  Rick

                  this year we did Carlisle in my wifes esculade and had a clear signal all the way out from New York and back with a luggage container on the roof impeading the antenas signal.

                  Have your freind ask for assistance with his caddy thru there 800 number I had some major problems with an 02 escualde that went back into the shop several times until I called the 800 number and they flew a mecanic out to the dealership servicing the car and the truck was fixed permanantly,

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                  • Duke W.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • January 1, 1993
                    • 15610

                    #10
                    Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

                    Don't advertise the Highway 33 "secret" to widely, Joe. I use it over Pine Mountain Summit for all my trips north and back, but at the pace I'm running I have to devote all my brain processing power to the driving task and have nothing left over to listen to the radio or other media. If I'm going to the Bay area I compete the trip on 198 and 25, but take 246 to I-5 when going to Nevada City, then find more two-lane roads from Stockton.

                    Most of the time on Highway 33 over the mountains (especially in "winter"). I don't even have to pass anybody. It's almost as good as a day at the track! Highway 1 is mostly deserted in the winter two, but it can be a real challege in a storm.

                    Fortunately, I make those trips solo as most passengers would probably not be able to handle it.

                    Duke

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                    • Stephen W.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • March 1, 2002
                      • 301

                      #11
                      Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

                      With XM you would have a number of choices. Decades... 40's , channel 4 , 50's channel 5 , 60's , 70's ect... Top Tracks which is classic rock and disco is still dead... There are so many great choices. You can use the "quickie" cassette adapter like the portable cd's do use the fm modulator for more perminent installation

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                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • February 1, 1988
                        • 43193

                        #12
                        Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

                        Dick-----

                        The Roady II that I purchased has a built-in FM modulator. The SkyFi II has this feature also. So, the external modulator is not necessary. That's the principal benefit of the 2nd generation DELPHI units.
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                        • Chris H.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • April 30, 1990
                          • 817

                          #13
                          Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

                          We have had XM for almost 2 years in our house. The 300 disc CD player that we used to listen to over our whole house system is never used anymore. My wifes company suburban has the nav. screen in it and it is great with the XM. It shows the name of the preset stations, like Fox or The Loft. Shows all the station/song info. Did get it in my Montana van as a factory installed option and have the portable Delphi unit in the house.

                          Plan on buying some kind of amp this summer and speakers and install it all under the rear convertible hatch (hardtop onloy car). I believe that the antenna will work under the fiberglass cover.

                          Chris

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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • February 1, 1988
                            • 43193

                            #14
                            Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

                            Craig------

                            There are several ways to feed the XM into the car's radio. The best way is through a direct connection with an "audio in" jack. However, most factory radios don't have these and, if they do, you have to remove the radio to install the lead (but, it's easy to connect on a routine basis after that).

                            The second best way is to use the cassette adapter (just like that used with portable CD players).

                            The third best way is to connect via the car's antenna system with external FM modulator. Dick Whittington has reported problems with this approach, though. It would have been last choice on my list, anyway.

                            The last way to do the feed is through the built in FM modulator which the 2nd generation DELPHI units have. With first generation, you have to use a seperate, external modulator which can be purchased in combination with the cigarette lighter power adapter. Using the FM modulator set to an unused FM frequency, the modulator plays into the car's radio in a wireless manner. This is very convenient, but there are pitfalls. One is that it produces the most inferior sound of all the options. The other is that if you travel away from home area, your "unused" FM frequency might become "used". Then, you have to find another unused FM frequency for wherever you're at.

                            The cassette adapter is a good option if your car has a cassette. Many newer cars do not, though. For me, the cassette adapter will work perfectly in my Corvettes. In the 92 I have the dual-play unit in which I never use the cassette, anyway. In the 69, I have "stacked", underdash-type cassette and CD players on the rear of the parking brake console. I won't be using the cassette player anymore, anyway, and I was thinking about taking it out of the car. However, now I'll use it as the dedicated audio input and amplifier for the XM radio.

                            I'm going to install a new aftermarket radio in my old 89 Eldorado and I'll make sure to get one that is XM-ready (for feed from my Roady II) or, at least, one that has an audio input jack.

                            My real "problem child" is going to be the '04 Grand Prix. I don't know if the factory "Monsoon" radio control head has an audio input jack, or not. In any event, I'll have to remove the radio to access it and install a cable for connection to the Roady II. For now, I'll probably just use the FM modulator since that's very convenient.

                            The real problem is the antenna. The magnetic mount makes attachment to my non-Corvettes easy. However, it's doing the wiring in a clean, "factory-like" manner that creates the problem. I want an antenna mounted in each car so that all I have to do is to plug the unit in when I move it from car-to-car (except rental cars for which I'll just carry a magnetic-mount antenna with me and won't worry, at all, about wiring issues).

                            I could use the adhesive mount for the Corvettes as Dick suggested. However, I don't like an adhesive mount too much either. I think that I can make up a "semi-permanent" mount for both Corvettes using a factory-type, permanent-mount XM antenna and some carefully fabricated hardware of my own design. I think that it will be easy for the 69 and a bit more difficult for the 92.
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43193

                              #15
                              Re: Cruising With XM Satellite Radio

                              Duke-----

                              I didn't see more than 2 or 3 cars during the whole trip on C-33 between C-150 and C-166. I did encounter quite a bit of snow at the higher elevations, though. In fact, I encountered a "chains required" sign (and, I didn't have any chains in the rental car). I never needed chains, though. The road was free of snow and ice.

                              Actually, I didn't find the drive to be awfully challenging and I was driving a Buick LeSabre. I made very good time, averaging 55 mph "block-to-block" during the whole day's 450 mile drive which included several short stops.
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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