rosette rivets

[John McGraw (31656)]

Re: rosette rivets

Joe,
You are correct. All the laws that I have ever read, state or federal, are more concerned with the intent rather than the act. Most have exceptions to the removal and replacement of the VIN tag by the rightfull owner or a repair shop working on behalf of the owner. Simple removal or replacement of the tag, by the owner, is not a crime. It is only a crime when it is an attempt to "clean" a stolen car. There is a lot of hysteria out there about removing a VIN tag will land you in the big house. I have replaced several VIN tags over the years, and my current 59 has a Repro VIN tag on it right now since the original was just too damaged to re-use. I could have just as easily gotten a state-issued VIN tag, since this is not a judged car, but the state-issued tag is butt ugly! On an otherwise correct looking car, a state-issued VIN tag is the kiss of death when it comes to resale value.

Regards, John McGraw

[Michael Strinich (11202)]

Re: rosette rivets

About 12 years ago a buddy and myself went over to another friends house to BS. Upon arrival we find our friend riveting ductwork together as he was adding A/C and heat to his basement garage. Upon closer inspection I found that he was using GM Rosette VIN rivets to assemble his ductwork. Those were the only rivets he had in the basement and he had a 1 square foot box FULL of them so why not use them. They had worked years before when he was assembling ductwork at a previous home.

Naturally this friend was a line worker at Saturn and a longtime GM employee. We asked him where he got those rivets and said they came from one of the previous plants in Ohio were he worked years ago. He was building A/C and heat ducts in his new house years ago in Ohio and needed rivets. What better place to get FREE rivets thas at work. Work as in a GM assembly plant!

Another case of GM assembly parts "lost in inventory"!

I am still amazed every time I think of this incident.