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  • Mike McKown

    Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

    Off the top of my head:

    '64 Plymouth, Stage III
    '66 Vette
    '64 Chevy 409
    '66 427 Ford

    I don't have them at my fingertips buy you can look up the NHRA records and see who outran who. If you don't wanna' go NHRA then the Pilgrim wins hands down. A Stage III right off the showroom with only tires would run low 12's, easy. The Corvette with tires, maybe mid-high 12's. The 409 Chevy and the 427 Ford were a joke in street trim however they would wind your crank on the strip when properly prepared but not showroom.

    The Plymouth was good for high 11's on 7 inch tires, NHRA stock. Maybe mid 11.0's The way the rear suspension was set up, they would leave the line with anybody.

    But the other side of the coin, I remember sitting in Sammy's Drive In, in Gary, Indiana in 1963 one night. Two guys in Stage II Mopars talking the stuff. Pulled out on the four lane in front of the restaurant. White '57 Bel Air sneeks in between them. Bel Air blew both of them off, with a 327. By the way, there was a '63 Z-11 in the joint that wanted no part of any of them.

    It's MY OPINION that if you bought a FACTORY STOCK CAR between '62 and '64, and you didn't have the fastest stock car on the street, then you didn't have one of the original Ramchargers(Dodge term) or whatever Plymouth called them. Just taking the caps off the headers on the FACTORY SYSTEM picked you up about 4-5 car lengths.
  • Curtis L.
    Expired
    • August 31, 2003
    • 120

    #2
    Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

    Did'nt the max wedge cars have aluminum bodys. I thought mopar went that way on some of the wedge cars.

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    • Mike McKown

      #3
      Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

      Curtis:

      At the risk of being corrected by some Mopar wienie, the '64's had aluminum front ends. I don't remember about the '63 Stage II. My cousin raced a '62 13.5-1 Stage I automatic. It ran on the National Record, somewhere around 12.5. A '63 Stage II automatic and a '64 Stage III 4 speed car. It was the only wedge that ran at the Indy Nationals in '64 SS. The rest of them were Hemi's. It had straps to pull up the front door windows, little bitty bucket seats, no body sealer and other little lightening tricks.

      Off the showroom floor, '62-'64, I don't think you could beat the Mopars on the drag strip.

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      • Mike McKown

        #4
        If you are talking automatic transmission class

        there was no question about it. Mopar.

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        • Mike S.
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          • March 1, 2005
          • 125

          #5
          Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

          go to yearone.com site. look under f.a.st. class to find out who is walking who.the hemis are crying.

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          • Mike S.
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            • March 1, 2005
            • 125

            #6
            Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

            also in 1971 in carcraft mag. a 71 LS6 with slicks ran in high 11s.which is not as fast as aL88.

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            • Allen Murray

              #7
              Here is another list including exotics

              Here's another list I found, Mopar seems to take the top spot.....'66 L72 not too shabby though




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              • lyndon sharpton

                #8
                Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

                did the LS-6 live are did they bust it up in the drag runs?

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                • Michael H.
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                  • January 29, 2008
                  • 7477

                  #9
                  Re: Here is another list including exotics

                  These tests and results are interesting but, to me, they mean very little. One of the big factors between the old muscle cars and todays stuff is the incredible difference in tires, not horsepower. If you try to launch a new 66 425 HP Corvette with those little skinny bicycle tires that the cars came with, it's no surprise that most would wind up sideways or in circles if you didn't ease it off the line. The only fair way to compare an old 425 HP to a new Z06 would be to equip both cars with equal tires. Since the wheels/tires on a 2006 won't fit on a 66, we should see if anyone would be willing to install a set of original type tires from a 66 on their 2006. I think a LOT of performance numbers on the new cars are a direct result of tires. Would certainly be an interesting test.

                  I don't remember any new Hemi Cudas running in the ten second range in stock trim. Maybe with gooey tires and headers.

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                  • Terry R.
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                    • March 1, 2005
                    • 359

                    #10
                    Re: Here is another list including exotics

                    Talking about exotics: In '72 I built a 440 Six Pack and put it in a '61 Vette. I street raced it but the guy I sold it to turned high '10s with wrinkle walls and open headers.[ believe it or not it fit and looked pretty good] Terry

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                    • Warren F.
                      Expired
                      • December 1, 1987
                      • 1516

                      #11
                      Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

                      Lyndon:

                      One of the Car Craft writers who ran the car down the strip, missed a gear, shifting and sent a rod thru the oil pan. The car carries a CE warranty block in it from that incident. Currently owned by Steve Hodges. Incidently this is the earliest known original LS-6 on the survey. This car was also featured in Car and Driver and Sports Car Graphic magazines as well.

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                      • lyndon sharpton

                        #12
                        Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

                        thanks Warren,

                        do you know when the LS-6 started showing up in 71? you said this was the earliest one what is the build month on it do you know?

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                        • Warren F.
                          Expired
                          • December 1, 1987
                          • 1516

                          #13
                          Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

                          Lyndon:

                          Yes, we know. We have kept some of the LS-6 information confidential, so as to not promote the cloning proliferation that seems to be prevalent among the rarest, high performance model Corvettes.

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                          • Mike McKown

                            #14
                            Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

                            Does this Steve Hodges live in Louisville by any chance>

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                            • Warren F.
                              Expired
                              • December 1, 1987
                              • 1516

                              #15
                              Re: Who'll Walk Who?? In What Order?

                              Mike:

                              No, Kansas

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