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Good eveining Corvetters. Please look in your parts piles....call your friends, am looking for a 1107242 starter or starer case dated September, October or November 1962....working or not. Without calling up the "Big Boys" does anyone have a lead on this starter or starter case? Thanks in advance. Mike #28614
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Re: Looking 4 help finding 1107242 starter!!
Mike, Try John Pirkle. He's in the Driveline for sure. He's not a big boy although a tall one. Nice fellow and reasonable. For my 63 he did the works and we were pleased. Watch our for the restampers though if you use the "little" boys. John is first class all the way. Also try Andy Cannizzo at andy3651@aol.com Good luck on finding the solenoid also. Study up on solenoids finishes. Sounds like yours may be a black out by I am not sure. Got dinged on my Feb built starter and solenoid because was told solenoid should not be black. Should be shiny. But I am confused on this issue and haven't gotten around to researching it. I am pretty sure the early early 63's had black solenoids and yours is pretty early but don't go by me. John -
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Mike, 1107242's are one of the rarer starters. they were used on 62 automatic corvettes and most if not all 63 corvettes. They were also used on 327 full size Chevy cars in 1963. It took John 18 months to locate an original for me. They do occasionally come up on ebay but you need to know what date code goes with you VIN. They do get expensive.
My solenoid is also bakolite and black, but it is not original to the car.
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Harry, I don't think I saw in our JM what finish the solenoid is supposed to be but I could be wrong. I am not here trying to dispute a judge's opinion as that would not be fair and I am not like that. It's a fun thing to me anyhow albeit expensive fun. Most of the pics I see of 63 starters show them as all black. My starter works good and I really don't like the idea of messing with it. Can a 63 solenoid be black OR shiny? Or does it depend on when it was built as to what the finish is. Thanks, John P.S. I have been wondering where you have been???Comment
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John,
Can't say for sure that all of the solenoids for the 63 model year were black but I know 100% for sure that some (most) were black.Comment
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Michael, I think restoring an early 63 must be a lot easier than a later one because so much of the chassis was a black out. It must be really hard on the chassis judges to keep up with the running changes. Glad I don't do chassis'.
Have enough trouble with mechanical. Thanks again, JohnComment
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Michael/John.
I've read where the solenoid can either be Cad./zinc plated or semi-gloss black. This is what the JG says. I've also heard from a reliable source that the only solenoid used in 63 was a 1119919. I've head others say he was full of Shxx. Anyway, I have no first hand knowledge, but if I was judging a car, I would pass a black 1114304 solenoid on a 63.
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Harry all 1963 original solenoids were BLACK.Comment
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Robert, How u know all 63 solenoids were black. Do u have some nice pics to post??? You know I always thought they were black. I haven't asked Pirkle that question though. I really should or someone should. Meanwhile the starting solenoid part number is not judged that often because #1. It's hard to see and #2. of time constraints put on the judges at the big shows. A good judge told me John with the high number of cars being entered for judgind we can't cover everything. CC hollers at us if we take to long. So if the configuration is correct it flies. I can appreciate that.
But I am wondering about this solenoid issue as far as part numbers go. I doubt very much if a 4304 would fly on all 63's though Harry. (oops-talking to RJ.) But Harry if you are looking in what other numbers of solenoids have you seen on 63's. Robert what numbers have you seen? You know more than most of us on 63's. it is nice seeing you finally make some posts. Maybe you can catch up and be #1. US old guys should not sand bag so much you know Robert. DO you actually go by Robert??? Jr.Comment
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Robert, thank you.
HarryComment
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You're welcome Harry
One more item for thought while talking ORIGINAL 63 solenoids,I am 100% sure a 1111910 DElCO solenoid was used on some 1963 Corvettes also.Comment
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John,
I don't know about the other 21,512 1963 Corvettes that went down the assy line but this one definitely had a black painted solenoid. This pic was taken on the St Louis chassis line some time before mid production. I cropped it to show just the starter area. (the original pic is very large)
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John
Living down in the swamp is a pretty restrictive learning enviorment in regards to your "sandbagging" comment. I would think that a smart FI guy like yourself living in the northeast (where the majority of midyears were bought) would put YOU way ahead of the learning curve regarding Corvette stuff.
Your stories of buying multiple new midyears Corvettes also would clearly put you in a more advantageous position than swamp dwellers like myself.
MR Michael Hanson is true 63 expert and I'll never catch up to his knowledge.
May all your hood props be original JR, RobertComment
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RJ, Not fair you get to tell all the secrets and JD not allowed to say squat. But since you admit the NE had more experience in midyears than the swamp critters I will tell you that my 63 has the real deal solenoid but not the one listed in the JM. It's a real 9910. Only thing fake about it is the guy who sold it to me put a cheep SR brown plastic cap and guts in it. Couldn't believe HE would do so. So the jig is up and the cat is out of the bag so to speek. I was afraid to put the 9910 on my Feb-March 63 cause the manual does not list it. So now that mrgmpartsman says it real deal then must be tru. Thanks for the nice post and now all we need is an echo answer to assure that it is indeed fact. I forgot to tell all that UPS gave me a free coffee mug in appreciation of my business to them. Honest. I used it for the first time this morning. Not even a holiday and a driver came and gave it to me. We all better be careful because this post is definitely being READ by millions of people. JohnComment
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Hang on, is it 9910 or 9919?? Are we looking at yet another fix to the 63/64 JG.
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