78 Pace Car Decals... Judges?

[Eric J.]

Here's the hypothetical... What point deduction would there be if you had a set of repop decals on the car and OEM/NOS decals in the box in the back? 10 pts? 5pts? 0 points. COuld I convince the judge that the applied decals were just colorful dirt? Eric #3,182

[Harmon C.]

Re: 78 Pace Car Decals... Judges?

Eric
The last I knew the deduction was 10 for installed decals. An extra set in the car would not be judged. As I recall the deduction is 10 for missing or installed decals.
Lyle

[Michael W.]

Re: 78 Pace Car Decals... Judges?

I would ask the owner which set of decals he wanted me to judge- and to remove the other set from the judging field

[Doug F.]

Re: 78 Pace Car Decals... Judges?

would you also ask the car owner to take off the front lower spoiler too since it came shipped off the car???

[Michael W.]

Re: 78 Pace Car Decals... Judges?

Was it installed as part of normal dealer prep? Cars are judged accordingly.

[Chris Patrick]

Re: 78 Pace Car Decals... Judges?

Isn't NCRS judging supposed to be "per normal dealer prep"?

If so, the dealers prepped them with the decals and the spoilers, regardless of what you want to think. There were some lawsuits at the time over installed decals, because they were noted on the order to "leave the decals off".

[Tom R.]

Re: 78 Pace Car Decals... Judges?

I'm with Lyle...10 point deduct but I would give you an "attaboy" for the box and NOS decals inside.

[Eric J.]

Re: 78 Pace Car Decals... Judges?

Moral Victory.... Thanks Eric

[Eric J.]

What about PC VIN #001 or 002?

Tom/Lyle,

Out of Curiosity, If Al Unser Sr decided to flight judge PC #002 what would his deduction be since his was created with the decals on? Or the H000000 Prototype? Eric

[Tom R.]

Re: What about PC VIN #001 or 002?

Same rules...same deduct = 10 points

NCRS Judges...these guys are tough!

[Eric J.]

Re: What about PC VIN #001 or 002?

Ok, But you have to tell him! Eric

[Tom R.]

Re: What about PC VIN #001 or 002?

I was short with my previous response but unless he produced documentation from the factory that indeed they applied the decals, the ruling would be disputed up the NCRS line but with all probability default to a deduction. But it would be interesting.

[Eric J.]

Re: What about PC VIN #001 or 002?

Tom, Yes it would be Interesting. Thank you for the answers. I know this can of worms has been opened before. I just like the look of the decals on the car. I guess I had better look for an $100 oil filter to make up for the hit. Eric #3,182

[Patrick H.]

Re: What about PC VIN #001 or 002?

I don't own a 78, but I've always found the on/off decal argument somewhat silly. We allow for an owner to have license plate frames and screws in the car OR on the car, yet we don't allow for Pace Car decals in the same manner? If there is a standardized "new car prep" then I would think that all items would be judged accordingly, no matter how easy they might be to install or remove.

Patrick

[Chris Patrick]

Re: What about PC VIN #001 or 002?

Does anyone have a copy of the dealer preparation list for these years? I remember one guy suing the dealership for installing the decals and the dealer insisted it was part of the Chevrolet prep. I don't remember how it turned out.