C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

[Gerard F.]

Randy,

Per your reguest here are some pictures of my 67 grille and mounting.

Outside lt,rt,ctr:

Inside lt, rt ctr

Sorry it is a lttle dirty. I don't think it has ever been off the car.

Hope this helps.

Jerry Fuccillo
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[Ralph E.]

Re: C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

Jerry,
Would your car be a St Louis car or a late AOS. Notice the valance around the grill does not have the holes for attaching the grill that was on earlier years.

Just trying to understand when the holes were there.

Ralph #37280

[Randy R.]

Re: C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

Jerry, Thanks for the pictures. The leading edge of the right side of my grille is even with the leading edge of the lower panel. This is not the case for the left side. On the left side, the leading edge of the grille is 3/8 in. behind the leading edge of the lower panel. The leading edge of the center of the grille is even with the leading edge of the center panel. I am trying to determine which if any is correct. How do the leading edges of your grille line up with the lower panel?

Thank you,

Randy

[Randy R.]

Re: C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

Ralph,

My car is an A O Smith car. I believe the holes where present for 63 to 65. I know they were not present for 66 or 67.

Randy

[Gerard F.]

Re: C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

Ralph,

Late AOS, June 67, A-4837, final assembly June 29, 1967.

Jerry Fuccillo

[Gerard F.]

Re: C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

Randy,

I'll check this week and get back to you. Just got in from the garage on another project I didn't finish.

Jerry Fuccillo

[Robert T.]

Re: C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

My grill, that I believed to be original, had pop rivits in it also. and I was told that it was incorrect and got deducted accordingly. Were pop rivits used to attached the mounting brackets to the grill? Thanks.

Bob

[Gerard F.]

Re: C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

Bob,

The grille in the pictures above is my original factory grille, never been off the car in the 38 years I'v had it. Pop rivets and all, June 67 AOS body.

Jerry Fuccillo
#42179

[Ralph E.]

Re: C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

Jerry,
We are finding the holes on the side of the valance in some early AOS cars.
So far, only cars before January have been found to have the holes.

Ralph #37280

[Gerard F.]

Re: C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

Randy,

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, today was the first day I've been able to move my car with the front end against the back wall of the garage.

The bottom rail of my grille is even with the lower panel on the driver's side and in the center. On the passenger side the grille is slightly inward but no more than an 1/8"-1/4".

Jerry Fuccillo
#42179

[Wayne W.]

Re: C2:67 Grille, Randy6423

If the holes refered to are the ones that are on the raised pads on the park lamp panel, They were only on those cars that had the attached grille trim. 63-64. They were not on any 65-67 cars that would not have had that trim. The only possibility of a variance might have been the very first few 65 cars, but I even doubt that. I have not seen any on known original 65s., and I did observe the next to last 64. It had 65 innerfenders installed on it. As for the rivet on the grille bracket, I have never seen one that I thought was original.

[Gerard F.]

67 Grille Bracket Rivets

Wayne,

Looks like you've seen one now (the rivets in the grille bracket). Guaranteed, never been touched in my ownership for 38 years. June 29, 1967 car.

Wait til you see my big block hood. (only kidding, of course)

Regards,

Jerry Fuccillo
#42179

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 Grille Bracket Rivets

Lets see. 2007-1967=40-38=2 I would say, thats two years that are unacounted for. How can you be sure, and why would you believe that yours would be different than the others? Are you the original owner? I am not saying it isnt. I am saying, I am not convinced, and that there is a good chance that it isnt. The fact is, the grille can be easily removed and replaced without any signs that it has been done. Its just not conclusive. Lots of things can happen in two years. One of my cars had 30K+ miles and a major nose job in that period time. The second owner acquired it about that time after it had been traded back to the selling dealer. And, by all means, let me see that hood.

[Gerard F.]

Re: 67 Grille Bracket Rivets

Wayne,

I remember the day in July 67 when my room-mate in the Navy brought this car home to our snake ranch in Virgina Beach,VA. 17 months later in December 68, I bought it from him (actually traded him a Renualt 10 for it). So I'm the second owner. Knowing the original owner continuosly during that time, I know that there was never any reason to replace the grille, nor any reason under my ownership

Take my word for it, the rivets in the grille brackets were how it was delivered new. Here is how it looks after nearly 40 years:


I was only kidding about the big block hood, but I believe Roy and Noland's story.

Jerry Fuccillo
#42179

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 Grille Bracket Rivets

OK, I believe you. In this picture can you tell me what that stuff is where the park lamp panel meets the innerfender?