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  • Brian #46951

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    1967 Solenoid

    In the Tech Manual it states the cap on the solenoid is dark brown. I have found one with this part # (1114356) and a black solenoid cap. Could this be correct for a 427/390? VIN is around 110500. Thanks.




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  • Brian #46951

    #2
    Re: 1967 Solenoid

    Oh, and here is the top of the cap. Could the "R" be a replacement cap?




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    • Stephen L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • June 1, 1984
      • 3109

      #3
      Re: 1967 Solenoid

      That is an original solenoid for your 427/390. The cap is black as well as the solenoid itself.

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      • Stephen L.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • June 1, 1984
        • 3109

        #4
        Re: 1967 Solenoid

        "R" is the ballast resistor connection point. "S" is the ignition switch connection point.

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        • Jack H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 1, 1990
          • 9893

          #5
          Re: 1967 Solenoid

          The 'S' and 'R' marks are as Steve says--different wiring connection points for supplying ignition power during engine cranking vs. non-cranking. Auto electric guys typically refer to them as the START and RUN terminals...

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 42936

            #6
            Re: 1967 Solenoid

            Brian-----

            I have never seen an original GM #1114356 with a dark brown cap. Perhaps some were made, but I've never seen one that I thought was original. However, I know that at least some, if not all, of the 356 solenoids used during the 67-69 period used black caps.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Brian #46951

              #7
              Re: 1967 Solenoid

              Joe, Maybe the Tech Manual needs to be changed. Page 136 of the Red (4th Edition) manual states "a dark brown Bakelite material." I have been told there was also part # 1114458 used. Could that have been dark brown? If the manual is incorrect, who would we notify?

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 42936

                #8
                Re: 1967 Solenoid

                Brian------

                I don't think that a GM #1114458 was ever originally used on a 1967. I don't even think that solenoid part number even existed at that time.

                The dark brown cap was GM #6258043. I don't think that it was used on the GM #1114356 solenoids until about 1971 or 1972. Even then, I don't think that it was used on all such solenoids.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Philip C.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • December 1, 1984
                  • 1118

                  #9
                  Starter looks like a goat hill or Ebay special *NM*

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                  • Brian #46951

                    #10
                    Re: Starter looks like a goat hill or Ebay special

                    Phil, why do you feel that way? More specifics would be appreciated. Thank you.

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                    • Philip C.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • December 1, 1984
                      • 1118

                      #11
                      Re: Starter looks like a goat hill or Ebay special

                      Brian it seems like you testing the waters, I think you know what you have. It looks to me like it been restamped, and thats what you get from those places. Iam not trying to hurt anyone, you asked, I give my thoughts. Phil 8063

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                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • February 1, 1988
                        • 42936

                        #12
                        Re: Starter looks like a goat hill or Ebay special

                        phil------

                        ...and providing one's thoughts is what a discussion board is all about.
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                        • Stephen L.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • June 1, 1984
                          • 3109

                          #13
                          Re: 1967 Solenoid

                          The terminology START works for me, but RUN doesn't in that this terminal has no power in a run condition....unless they are refering to the starter itself running....

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