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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43193

    #16
    Re: I don't think they will.

    Patrick-----

    It's amazing how many design elements have become predictable in the Corvette world over the years. For instance, beginning with the C2, one of the major design elements that GM used to differentiate model years was the change in the side "gills". The same design element change was used for C3 model year differentiation. For the C4, the "gill" design became, once again, the design element change which, in large part, differentiated blocks of year models during the 13 year production run. Mercifully, "gill" changes are going to be difficult to execute with the C5.

    Now, this "50th Anniversary" model seems to have borrowed similar and predictable design elements used for earlier "anniversary" models. It sure doesn't seem like a lot of "innovation" went into the design of the "50th Anniversary" Corvette. Certainly, it would be difficult for Corvette designers to make a business case for a lot of expensive design element changes for a very limited production car like the Corvette "50th Anniversay" model. However, it would seem like a lot more could have been done with "low buck" design element changes.

    As a matter of fact, it appears that there are nothing but "lackluster" changes for the entire 2003 model year. I found one thing stiking in the GM press release:

    "During 2003 only, all Corvettes feature a special 50th Anniversary emblem on the front and rear. The emblem is SILVER [emphasis added] and features the number "50" with the signature cross flag design"

    Couldn't they, at least, have made the emblem GOLD colored instead of silver colored? I realize that silver was used for the 25th Anniversary emblem and appropriately so, but do they have to be so trapped by past practice that they make a "50th ANNIVERSARY EMBLEM silver-colored instead of gold-colored? How many car marques EVER get to celebrate a GOLDEN ANNIVERSARY?
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43193

      #17
      Re: I don't think they will.

      Patrick-----

      It's amazing how many design elements have become predictable in the Corvette world over the years. For instance, beginning with the C2, one of the major design elements that GM used to differentiate model years was the change in the side "gills". The same design element change was used for C3 model year differentiation. For the C4, the "gill" design became, once again, the design element change which, in large part, differentiated blocks of year models during the 13 year production run. Mercifully, "gill" changes are going to be difficult to execute with the C5.

      Now, this "50th Anniversary" model seems to have borrowed similar and predictable design elements used for earlier "anniversary" models. It sure doesn't seem like a lot of "innovation" went into the design of the "50th Anniversary" Corvette. Certainly, it would be difficult for Corvette designers to make a business case for a lot of expensive design element changes for a very limited production car like the Corvette "50th Anniversay" model. However, it would seem like a lot more could have been done with "low buck" design element changes.

      As a matter of fact, it appears that there are nothing but "lackluster" changes for the entire 2003 model year. I found one thing stiking in the GM press release:

      "During 2003 only, all Corvettes feature a special 50th Anniversary emblem on the front and rear. The emblem is SILVER [emphasis added] and features the number "50" with the signature cross flag design"

      Couldn't they, at least, have made the emblem GOLD colored instead of silver colored? I realize that silver was used for the 25th Anniversary emblem and appropriately so, but do they have to be so trapped by past practice that they make a "50th ANNIVERSARY EMBLEM silver-colored instead of gold-colored? How many car marques EVER get to celebrate a GOLDEN ANNIVERSARY?
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Chas Kingston

        #18

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        • Chas Kingston

          #19

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          • Duke W.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • January 1, 1993
            • 15610

            #20
            Pricing???

            Pricing has not been released for the "1SC" option, but when it is I think more are going to run for the hills. In particular, that "magneto-hydrodynamic" (or whatever they call the technology) shock absorber system is going to drive the price up big time. It sounds like neat technology, but a big maintenance/repair liability on a collectable keeper car. I guess that's the "something special" that Dave said the 50th Anniversary model would have about a year ago.

            Duke

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            • Duke W.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 1, 1993
              • 15610

              #21
              Pricing???

              Pricing has not been released for the "1SC" option, but when it is I think more are going to run for the hills. In particular, that "magneto-hydrodynamic" (or whatever they call the technology) shock absorber system is going to drive the price up big time. It sounds like neat technology, but a big maintenance/repair liability on a collectable keeper car. I guess that's the "something special" that Dave said the 50th Anniversary model would have about a year ago.

              Duke

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              • Robert C.
                Expired
                • December 1, 1993
                • 1153

                #22
                Re: GM will get the message!

                They are always responsive to the public. It will just take awile. They CAN'T be serious about the 50th anniversary car! Can they? Have you heard ONE positive comment about it?
                I expect a mid-year special edition to happen. Just a guess.
                Bob

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                • Robert C.
                  Expired
                  • December 1, 1993
                  • 1153

                  #23
                  Re: GM will get the message!

                  They are always responsive to the public. It will just take awile. They CAN'T be serious about the 50th anniversary car! Can they? Have you heard ONE positive comment about it?
                  I expect a mid-year special edition to happen. Just a guess.
                  Bob

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                  • Clem Z.
                    Expired
                    • January 1, 2006
                    • 9427

                    #24
                    Re: Pricing???

                    the magnetic fluid shocks have been used on race cars for several years now. they can not be any more expensive that the electric motor driven one they have now on the corvettes

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                    • Clem Z.
                      Expired
                      • January 1, 2006
                      • 9427

                      #25
                      Re: Pricing???

                      the magnetic fluid shocks have been used on race cars for several years now. they can not be any more expensive that the electric motor driven one they have now on the corvettes

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1989
                        • 11608

                        #26
                        Re: GM will get the message! NOT!

                        Bob,

                        Using GM's usual speed of responsiveness, the 50th Anniversary pakcage we all wanted will be released in the 2004 model year. After all, if 1983's didn't exist, that's the 50th year, right?

                        I have to agree with Duke on pricing. Those shocks sound like $$$ danger to me, and given my age and predicted life expectancy, I'll have to start collecting parts like Joe Lucia to avoid the $10000 replacement price for NOS shocks soon.



                        Patrick
                        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                        71 "deer modified" coupe
                        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                        2008 coupe
                        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                        • Patrick H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1989
                          • 11608

                          #27
                          Re: GM will get the message! NOT!

                          Bob,

                          Using GM's usual speed of responsiveness, the 50th Anniversary pakcage we all wanted will be released in the 2004 model year. After all, if 1983's didn't exist, that's the 50th year, right?

                          I have to agree with Duke on pricing. Those shocks sound like $$$ danger to me, and given my age and predicted life expectancy, I'll have to start collecting parts like Joe Lucia to avoid the $10000 replacement price for NOS shocks soon.



                          Patrick
                          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                          71 "deer modified" coupe
                          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                          2008 coupe
                          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                          • John H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1997
                            • 16513

                            #28
                            Driveline Ad, Year 2034

                            WANTED: Two pints of NOS 2003 Magneto-Rheological Fluid for 50th Anniversary Corvette shocks; have original 5-Star Bowtie L-88 to trade. Shockless in Seattle, e-mail bouncybouncy@Bloomington.com

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                            • John H.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • December 1, 1997
                              • 16513

                              #29
                              Driveline Ad, Year 2034

                              WANTED: Two pints of NOS 2003 Magneto-Rheological Fluid for 50th Anniversary Corvette shocks; have original 5-Star Bowtie L-88 to trade. Shockless in Seattle, e-mail bouncybouncy@Bloomington.com

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                              • james Kekeisen

                                #30
                                Re: Driveline Ad, Year 2034

                                Hey I just saw that posting on Ebay!

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