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  • Joseph S.
    National Judging Chairman
    • March 1, 1985
    • 831

    #16
    Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

    in the 1:20 point of the You tube video, the tech is spraying a gray gelcoat onto the molds. Both 53 Corvettes I stripped had this same Gray gelcoat. 1 was an original paint car! The cloth texture should not show through in a proper restoration. This "print through" was not evident when new. Print through is a product of age and shrinkage. The gelcoat is there to suppress this for a length of time.

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    • Chris S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 1, 2000
      • 1064

      #17
      Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

      two i have do not have any gel coat - - they all had a brown factory primer.
      1954 Corvette #3803 - Top Flight 2012, Bloomington Gold 2012,
      Triple Diamond Award 2012, Gold Concourse Award 2012, Regional and National Top Flight 2014
      1954 Corvette #3666 - "The Blue Devil" - Pennant Blue - restoration started
      1957 Corvette - FI 3 sp - Black and Silver

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      • James G.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • May 31, 1976
        • 1556

        #18
        Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

        So neat to see a gal, JILL, having fun with a vintage vette. CONGRATS on a neat job well done.
        Over 80 Corvettes of fun ! Love Rochester Fuel Injection 57-65 cars. Love CORVETTE RACE CARS
        Co-Founder REGISTRY OF CORVETTE RACE CARS.COM

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        • James G.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • May 31, 1976
          • 1556

          #19
          Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

          Good old GARY SUMMERVILLE and ROGER BRADLEY. Two FUEL INJECTION friends. Has Roger finished the 65 GREEN on white FI Convertible? I found him that car about 6 or 7 years ago
          Over 80 Corvettes of fun ! Love Rochester Fuel Injection 57-65 cars. Love CORVETTE RACE CARS
          Co-Founder REGISTRY OF CORVETTE RACE CARS.COM

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          • Mark E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1993
            • 4498

            #20
            Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

            So when did Corvette transition from cloth to mat construction? And can you tell on a complete car which material was used (assuming the cloth texture isn't showing through the paint)? I'm thinking it might be apparent on the back side of the panels, floor boards, firewall?
            Mark Edmondson
            Dallas, Texas
            Texas Chapter

            1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
            1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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            • Rex M.
              Frequent User
              • April 22, 2009
              • 78

              #21
              Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

              Sometime in 1954, or late 1953, the parts were press molded. The inside of the parts would have been flattened down and you wouldn't be able to feel the raw glass. The material used was basically the same. I know because I actually molded parts in 1964.

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              • Chris S.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 1, 2000
                • 1064

                #22
                Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

                Correct Rex - its weird as some 53's have some press molded parts and some dont
                Some 54's have cloth parts especially the early ones....
                1954 Corvette #3803 - Top Flight 2012, Bloomington Gold 2012,
                Triple Diamond Award 2012, Gold Concourse Award 2012, Regional and National Top Flight 2014
                1954 Corvette #3666 - "The Blue Devil" - Pennant Blue - restoration started
                1957 Corvette - FI 3 sp - Black and Silver

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                • Jill J.
                  Expired
                  • October 30, 2013
                  • 241

                  #23
                  Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

                  Originally posted by James Gessner (943)
                  Good old GARY SUMMERVILLE and ROGER BRADLEY. Two FUEL INJECTION friends. Has Roger finished the 65 GREEN on white FI Convertible? I found him that car about 6 or 7 years ago
                  Thanks James. Yes, Roger's 65 is finished and looks GREAT! Gary stopped by the house today to see how my blocking and sanding progress was going. I mentioned your post to him and he said hi.

                  Jill, 59140

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                  • Roger W.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • January 29, 2008
                    • 564

                    #24
                    Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

                    Very nice work. I had never heard of "cat hair" before. There is always something to learn on this board.

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                    • Bill L.
                      Expired
                      • April 1, 1985
                      • 349

                      #25
                      Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

                      Jill:

                      Excellent photo set! It really helps to see this kind of detail!

                      Regards
                      Bill

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                      • Bill L.
                        Expired
                        • April 1, 1985
                        • 349

                        #26
                        Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

                        Jill:

                        Excellent photo set! It really helps to see this kind of detail!

                        Regards
                        Bill

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                        • Dan P.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • December 1, 1990
                          • 683

                          #27
                          Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

                          Always measure your catalyst . I use a syringe with the CC marks . Never ever never just guess.Guessing is the main reason the repairs show up after painting.You can buy laminating resin which has longer working time . You can actually let it set overnight and put on more the next day . I know people say it shrinks and will show the repair in the paint .That is because it was not fully cured before top coating.Laminating resin is the same as the regular stuff but without the wax additive.If you use laminating resin it is best to let it cure a couple a long time before top coating and i would use a heat lamp on it to make sure it is fully cured before top coating.In fact i use a heat lamp after all of the repairs . You can also buy slower hardener.Gives you more working time. I like the slower hardener .I worked as a body man at Chevrolet dealer back in the day .We had trouble with body putty . When it got hot outside the panels would get wavy .That is because the body putty and the fiberglass expands and contracts at a different rate .3M makes a Vinyl ester putty for fiberglass which corrects this problem.You will have to get it a marine supply house.

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                          • Dan P.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • December 1, 1990
                            • 683

                            #28
                            Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

                            After i am done with repair i put a piece of plastic over it and then use the roller or dry brush to work out all the air bubbles .Painters plastic tarp works the best . You can even use your wife's plastic food wrap . You can see all the air bubbles right through the plastic. When it hardens the plastic will peal right off.No clean up needed for the roller.Make sure the backside of the repair is solid or you will get air bubbles . Masking tape and putty spreaders work great.You can also use masking tape on the top to hold everything down .I will also use a deep well socket on top to hild the mat down in tight corner. After curing the tape will peal right off.I try and sand every thin the same day while the resin is soft.Sands a lot easier .I wash the cured resin with thinner and scotch brite pad to get the scum off of top so it does not clog up the paper . I like 3m hookit paper because if the paper does clog i remove it form the sander and bead blast it and reuse it .

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                            • Jill J.
                              Expired
                              • October 30, 2013
                              • 241

                              #29
                              Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

                              Hi Dan.

                              I never thought about using a plastic overlay to squish out all of the air bubbles. I'm going to try that on my few remaining repairs.

                              Jill, 59140

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                              • Rex M.
                                Frequent User
                                • April 22, 2009
                                • 78

                                #30
                                Re: Fiberglass Bodywork Question

                                You know what really gets me after watching the Youtube is they have no gloves on or masks and dressed in white. The fumes coming off of a piece that large would be breathtaking. Almost to the point of burning your eyes. With no gloves and handling the glass mat, you would get extreme iching in your hands. The resin doesn't just wipe off either, that would have taken, in those days methene chloride or acetone to wash off. I know they were trying to impress GM on how easy fiberglass was but boy would OSHA have a field day if done today.

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