"A frame Dust shield mounting"

[Francis F.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

I'm new at posting pic's,kindly disregard photos of fuses.The top 4 pics I am trying to show the lack of any staple marks (holes),white items poking thru inner skirt are golf tee;s showing the mounting hole layout, still puzzeled on mounting technec.
Francis

[Donald H.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

Francis, I see old staple holes in the 4th photo. I have re-posted it after circling the staple holes.

[Joe R.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

Francis,

In your last picture with the hole. Staple holes are evident on both sides of that hole. At one time your Corvette had the correct flaps stapled from the factory.
Like I said, take it to judging and let the experts guide you.

JR

[Joe L.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

I'm new at posting pic's,kindly disregard photos of fuses.The top 4 pics I am trying to show the lack of any staple marks (holes),white items poking thru inner skirt are golf tee;s showing the mounting hole layout, still puzzeled on mounting technec.
Francis

Francis-------


I agree with the others; your photo clearly shows that staples were previously installed. Beyond that, a few other things:

The 67 style shields, GM #3908199, were added to the 1967 AIM as part of 9-9-66 revision. I highly doubt that these shields existed prior to that time. But, even if they did, it's even less likely that they existed as early as June. As a matter of fact, the 3908199 looks like a part number that might not have even been around as of start of 1967 PRODUCTION. I would more expect early 1967's to have the 63-66 shields than I would expect 1966's to have the 67 shields.

In addition, the question would arise as to why the factory would use pop rivets to attach these shields. The standard attachment method for 63-67 shields was staples. So, there would need to be THREE "co-incidences" that occurred here: first, that a 1967 shield appeared at St. Louis quite a bit earlier than would be expected. Second, that at the exact same time, St. Louis decided to use pop rivets instead of staples. Third, that after using pop rivets for a short time, St. Louis decided to go back to staples. When it takes multiple coincidences to explain something, I become highly skeptical.

So, why were rivets used? Very simple. Folks in the field rarely have the equipment necessary to perform the sort of stapling necessary to attach these shields. However, folks often have pop rivet guns available.

[Francis F.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

Joe, Thank's for shedding some(much) light on my misconception,as always you provide the voice of reason.
Francis .

[Francis F.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

Joe,DON,Russ,Gary and all,thank's for your response ,your expirence keeps me on track.
Francis

[Ronald L.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

To add to this thread, what is the story on thick and thin dust shields? When did or did not the thin ones start???

How about staples, for years restorers tried to get a rounded staple, but StLouis cars have a box sharp corner staple and the original wire was extremely hard.

Also, as John H wrote many years back...these flaps were stapled to the skirts before body build up, so these other ideas of how they were installed are a misconception, and guys, it wasn't a hurried slop job operation as implied above. It was what the engineer specified and the how was what the staple gun machine was capable of. BTW I know where it's at.

[Alan D.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

Ron, My contention is that thin dust shields for C2's never existed. Some 15 years ago I was checking these years on claimed
original cars and never found one thin. Know I asked on the forum where the thick one's could be had.
No repro one's at that time were thick.
The NOS one however were still thick but only available in later year design which had a minor detail missing:
Original on right, NOS on left: it's the missing triangle (white arrow) which is wrong for earlier cars. Naturally we are dealing with production
corvettes so never say never, . . just what I found

[Ronald L.]

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Alan, I have news for you, I have thin ones on a December 1966 that is absolutely un molested one owner car, after all who'd get near a 327 automatic anyway... very distinct because other 66 again with the 4 originals paint colors are thicker.

So what are the 4 original paint colors on a dust shield?????

[Alan D.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

Ron, as stated " Naturally we are dealing with production corvettes so never say never, . . just what I found"

OK, so we found one - will put down as noted.
Unaware of any paint except engine compartment black, if one looks behind the shield it is bare fiberglass.

[Ronald L.]

[Joe L.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

On the subject of paint verified by multiple un moledted survivor
Primer lots of red oxide and is on both sides

Next the dark gray surfacer none onthe wheel house side and if any top edge of the inner

Color. Both sides

Then what you think.... the black out is covering this all up

Where there’s one there are more

Next episode

Staples y’all been chasing nice rounded curves on the fold over

However....

Ronald------


Why don't you post some photos of this, especially some which show the thickness of the shields?

[Alan D.]

Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

Here is how the back side of the shield should look, note unpainted glass area where it was mounted. These were installed on the body before any paint.