1963 side fender flags

[Jerry C.]

Anyone know when the side flags changed to the thicker ones? My VIN 8873 has original holes for the later flags. Thanks in advance.

[Dan H.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

They were all 'thick'.

[Harry S.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

Jerry, yes they were all thick. The 63 used part 3827158. The orange side is very orange and there is only one number on the back. NOS and excellent used sets are very rare.

Please see as an example--------> http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-63-6...JWrjBY&vxp=mtr

[Mike M.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

years ago, i restored an early dec 62 SWC that had thin cross flags. i considered the emblems original to the car. mike

[Dan H.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

My friend has owned 1963 vert vn 697 since 1970, thick flags and stud patern. Is FI.

[Bob J.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

My friend has owned 1963 vert vn 697 since 1970, thick flags and stud patern. Is FI.

Dan,
I think that car is correct and there was only one emblem,
The only possible exception would be the first 25 pilot line builds and that is very remote.
If you look at the 63 AIM page (SECT 11-13 sheet 1) for front fender emblems the page never changed through at least 11-27 - 62 .
That page would have to change, #1 to show the history of the later emblem part number the earlier part number,and #2 the emblem hole location would change also, since the spacing on the mounting studs are not the same. Add to that, in a March 1963 parts book it makes no mention of the early emblem being used, only the 3827158 emblem is listed.
I'd need to see a virgin body (less paint) with the early hole spacing to believe ST Louis ever used thin emblems in production builds.
Bob Jorjorian

[John D.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

All of us "horders" throughout the years have wasted dreams of hitting it rich on collecting the "63" thin emblems. Only to realize much later they aren't even good paper weights. It's Chevy's fault for putting them in the parts book.
Another NOS part that is incorrect. Just like when my "63 was being re-restored I looked forward to putting NOS tail pipe extensions on the car only to realize that the 30 sets I had stashed were once again totally incorrect. Not out fault gang. We learned the hard way and the expensive way.

[Joe R.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

Gentlemen,

Pilot Line #16, #17 and 18# had the 62 thin emblems so 63's started in this world with the earlier emblems. Don't know how long it lasted but the first 63's had the earlier emblems.

JR

[Bob J.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

Joe,
that is good info to know.
I worked on a 63 tan/tan convertible serial #105. It had an A2 build date and was probably built the first day of regular production.
It had the thick side flag emblems.
Bob Jorjorian

[Joe L.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

Jerry, yes they were all thick. The 63 used part 3827158. The orange side is very orange and there is only one number on the back. NOS and excellent used sets are very rare.

Please see as an example--------> http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-63-6...JWrjBY&vxp=mtr

Harry-------


I'm not surprised that NOS examples of the GM #3827158 are rare. This part was discontinued in January, 1966 and replaced by the GM #3872930, the 1966-67 emblem.

[Joe R.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

Joe,
that is good info to know.
I worked on a 63 tan/tan convertible serial #105. It had an A2 build date and was probably built the first day of regular production.
It had the thick side flag emblems.
Bob Jorjorian

Bob,

When the pilot cars were being built I would imagine that the 62 line was still open and they were finishing orders for the 1962 year. Probably the only side emblems available were the 3792000 emblems. Obviously they were used (the 62 emblems) on some production 1963 cars as Mike has above explained. Let us not forget that GM would never stop the production line waiting for a 158 emblem and when they got to the bottom of the box they may have found some 3792000's.

JR

[Bob J.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

Joe,
I agee with you on the pilot line.

As far as the thin and thick being mixed on the line, I personally don't feel that happened.
The emblem holes would not in the same place, which would require different hole templates for drilling,
I don't think the emblem studs are even the same size between emblems. That would require two different attaching nuts.

As I posted earlier the AIM page doesn't show any changes in the history box and a 63 parts book doesn't list anything other than the 158.

To be original on all 63s (other than pilot line cars) you'll need what is pictured below!

Bob Jorjorian

[John D.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

Nice pic Jorjorian. The 158's are probably one of the rarest parts on the car today. My 63, the LWC has a pair of NOS ones on it.
Notice the white paint friends. It's not white at all. It's ivory.
Harry taught me first about the 158's in Marlborough at a regional.
All those NOS flags you see on Ebay in the blue/white box are not correct for our 63 to 65 Corvettes. They are just service replacements.
Nice box too Jorjorian. How much for nice flag with box please.

[Alan D.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

Here is the back side of the two

[Bob J.]

Re: 1963 side fender flags

Here is the back side of the two

Alan,
thanks for the picture. Pretty obvious the studs are a different size and in a different location.
Bob Jorjorian