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  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #16
    Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

    Originally posted by Gene Manno (8571)
    Now that is something to be proud of.......... Sad, even with NCRS rules forbid fooling around with castings.
    Remember FDICC or whatever it is called. Everything appeared as factory production. I did not know about the altered casting until later when the car was freshened up. Pressure washing took the casting date off.
    Dick Whittington

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    • David H.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • June 30, 2001
      • 1485

      #17
      Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

      Originally posted by Don Hooper (50543)
      Dan, Harry,
      Pwr Steer is an RPO option, and if it is detected as being non factory RPO, it is a full deduction, as well as all associated modifications made to add it. See NJC column in newest Restorer magazine. An added RPO option is different from an owner, or dealer added accessory which is the scenario you are describing above.
      Don,

      What page # in reference to NJC column. I don’t find RPO/AC comments in Winter 2018 NJC column.

      thanks

      Dave
      Judging Chairman Mid-Way USA (Kansas) Chapter

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      • Don H.
        Moderator
        • June 16, 2009
        • 2236

        #18
        Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

        Spring 2018, pg. 5. Hopefully others will get their copies soon.

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        • Michael J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 27, 2009
          • 7073

          #19
          Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

          Originally posted by Joseph Scafidi (8321)
          Maybe the car originally came with Power Steering and a previous owner removed it all because it leaked. So Dan just put it all back the way it originally came.
          I think that is a distinct possibility that should be declared as well before judging.
          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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          • Michael J.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • January 27, 2009
            • 7073

            #20
            Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

            Originally posted by Don Hooper (50543)
            Spring 2018, pg. 5. Hopefully others will get their copies soon.
            I'll be looking for that one.
            Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • June 30, 1985
              • 10483

              #21
              Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

              I was trying to make a point, the car is judged as presented against a standard. The car I referred to earlier was a well documented car with the options as it was shown. Even if you know the block is a restamp you cannot call it if you cannot show beyond reasonable doubt that it is. Same way with replacement fiberglass, etc.

              The point is that it has been done in the past, will be done again this year by someone(s) and most likely will be done as long as cars are shown. There are some very well known and respected members here that have done the same thing as I referred to.

              Seem to remember a 265 block that had the casting date and casting number cut out and grafted into another block that had maybe 347 cu in. I had nothing to do with that car and will protect the innocent/guilty parties
              Dick Whittington

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              • Patrick H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1989
                • 11608

                #22
                Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

                Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                I think that is a distinct possibility that should be declared as well before judging.
                Yeah, right.
                Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                71 "deer modified" coupe
                72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                2008 coupe
                Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                • Patrick H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1989
                  • 11608

                  #23
                  Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

                  Originally posted by Gene Manno (8571)
                  That’s fine if you gotta have an award you don’t really deserve. It’s not what NCRS is about. Made up cars go in the concourse class, not flight judging. Your only fooling yourself for sure. Maybe others too. But the others may not know the truth but you do.
                  CDCIF, Gene.
                  If the added option/part meets all the criteria, it passes.

                  Nothing here in trying to recreate or modify a Bowtie car.
                  Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                  71 "deer modified" coupe
                  72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                  2008 coupe
                  Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                  • Gene M.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1985
                    • 4232

                    #24
                    Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

                    Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                    CDCIF, Gene.
                    If the added option/part meets all the criteria, it passes.

                    Nothing here in trying to recreate or modify a Bowtie car.

                    No, no, no, added options not original to the car are explicitly worded in the judges reference manual as DEDUCTION. It has nothing to do with CDCIF. What’s bow tie car got to do with anything? They shouldn’t be restored, that’s the reason for bow tie. I don’t see your point of mentioning bow tie car.

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                    • Dave S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • August 31, 1992
                      • 2918

                      #25
                      Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

                      This is a very interesting thread. So my added original teak wheel on my 65 is a full deduct.........

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                      • Don H.
                        Moderator
                        • June 16, 2009
                        • 2236

                        #26
                        Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

                        Now that we know, yes.

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                        • Brian M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • February 1, 1997
                          • 1837

                          #27
                          Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

                          I thought prior knowledge was out the window.
                          Originally posted by Don Hooper (50543)
                          Now that we know, yes.

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                          • Tony S.
                            NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
                            • April 30, 1981
                            • 969

                            #28
                            Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

                            If it's undetectable, then no deduction.
                            Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
                            Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
                            Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
                            Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
                            Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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                            • Michael J.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • January 27, 2009
                              • 7073

                              #29
                              Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

                              Originally posted by Brian McHale (28809)
                              I thought prior knowledge was out the window.
                              You'd have to prove it was known from the TDB comments..........
                              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                              • Larry E.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • December 1, 1989
                                • 1652

                                #30
                                Re: Adding Power Steering to a C2 Top Flight Car

                                FWIW: Must also take in consideration the "Safety Factor". If a C2 originally came with the P48 option(Knock-
                                Off Wheels) and the owner wants to drive his Vette once in a while. It is very risky/costly to drive the car with the
                                Knock-Offs on. Yes it is done everyday and for some owners is Ok. But how many people know how to change
                                this wheel if a flat tire occurs. If your wife or good friend is the driver; problems can arise. In this case I see there
                                is no harm is changing this option back to the stock base wheels and hub caps. This should be unrecognizable for judging. JMHO
                                Larry
                                Larry

                                LT1 in a 1LE -- One of 134

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