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  • Duke W.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • January 1, 1993
    • 15610

    TDB participation

    Back in the early days of the internet the TDB was very vibrant and great place to hang out for stimulating discussions of vintage Corvette technology and history. I wasn't disappointed that the "other" NCRS DB was shut down as it ended up being mostly full of BMW (bitch, moan, and whine) posts.

    I was initially not in favor of making the TDB members only as I thought it was a good marketing tool and would attract new members, but what's happened to the Corvette Forum makes me think it was a good idea, then and now. The CF was also very good up until a few years ago, but has since degraded into a pathetic ghost of its past with mostly the infirmed leading the blind threads. I finally got tired of answering the same questions and dispelling the same old myths and misinformation over and over and over... again, so I quit a couple of years ago. I left over 12,000 posts and a few dozen threads I started with in depth answers/explanations to a lot of common issues, but I doubt if they ever get read anymore.

    Of late it seems the average number of TDB posts per day are no more than a handful. So is there a way to get more NCRS members to participate in the TDB? Had the Board discussed this issue?

    I wonder if lot of members don't even know about the TDB. Since NCRS now embraces models back to the C5 (if not early C6?), not that I could help with those generations, but where are the discussions about these later generations?

    Maybe NCRS could do some promotion like writing an article about the TDB in The Corvette Restorer, but that's only good for one cycle so how about a full page ad in every issue of The Driveline.

    A number of knowledgeable guys have "aged out" of the hobby or passed away, but there are still lots of knowledgeable guys in the club and many more members who need their knowledge, so what do we do to keep the ball rolling?

    Duke
  • Keith B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2014
    • 1575

    #2
    Re: TDB participation

    the NCRS website is clunky at best and can be very hard to navigate. if anything that is what turns people off.

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    • Duke W.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • January 1, 1993
      • 15610

      #3
      Re: TDB participation

      The software is old, but after over 20 years I know how to use it, and it works okay for me.

      How about often used Web sites that are constantly changing... especially financial/insurance institutions? The Chase, Vanguard, and USAA sites' constant changes just drive me nuts!

      Duke

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      • Bob W.
        Very Frequent User
        • December 1, 1977
        • 799

        #4
        Re: TDB participation

        I, Enjoy the TDB as it is works fine for me. Some people don't know what they are missing here. A lot of good information. As Gene Winfield says Every day is a school day.

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        • Jack H.
          Very Frequent User
          • November 1, 1998
          • 138

          #5
          Re: TDB participation

          Originally posted by Duke Williams (22045)
          The software is old, but after over 20 years I know how to use it, and it works okay for me.

          How about often used Web sites that are constantly changing... especially financial/insurance institutions? The Chase, Vanguard, and USAA sites' constant changes just drive me nuts!

          Duke
          Agree the software is old but simple to use once you learn it and no learning curves out of the blue when you logon. As the old saying goes KISS...Keep It Simple Stupid. As far as post and discussion I myself would like to more post and pictures of C2's and C3's that have been judged showing correctness of items and dings of items with insight on what was done to correct them. This is my take as I'm into C2's and C3's but there is a lot of member knowledge pre C2 and post C3 that is going to be lost in time. I find that searching old posts and reading them all gives me better idea of what things look like but not always. Knowing what works and what dosen't helps a great bit when restoring one on your own and not paying the big bucks for shops to do it...Jack

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          • Jim D.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • June 30, 1985
            • 2882

            #6
            Re: TDB participation

            I've only been a member for a few days () but have no problem with navigating the TDB. If I have a specific question, rather than start a new thread, I search that topic and almost always get all the info. I'm looking for. Maybe others do the same and that would account for a reduction in activity.

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            • Mark E.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 1, 1993
              • 4498

              #7
              Re: TDB participation

              Regarding the software, our RD shared recently it's being replaced with a new platform.

              Yes, the number of new, unique threads is declining. Maybe every C1-C3 trivia question has been answered?

              Not many C4-C6 threads have been started yet. Is this the new frontier for the TDB? Will these cars be as popular to restore as prior generations? Or is the complexity and economics too daunting? If so, the C1-C3 oriented TDB may morph into a searchable reference.
              Mark Edmondson
              Dallas, Texas
              Texas Chapter

              1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
              1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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              • Roger W.
                Very Frequent User
                • January 29, 2008
                • 564

                #8
                Re: TDB participation

                The NCRS website software may not be the latest and greatest, but after using it a few times, it is not difficult to use. It annoys me when a web site that was easy to use, all of a sudden changes and functions that were easy to do become a mystery. I just made an error on my Massachusetts estimate income tax payment yesterday. They changed the website from straight forward use last year to guessing how to use it. The last few times I used it, I guessed correctly. This time I did not.

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                • Mike M.
                  NCRS Past President
                  • May 31, 1974
                  • 8365

                  #9
                  Re: TDB participation

                  1) I too still find our NCRS TDB works fine for me and I'm a computer illiterate for the most part.
                  2) I agree that most c-1 and c-2 owner's problems have already been discussed. also agree the c-4 and c-up owners don't seem to use the TDB like us old timers did 20 years ago
                  3) agree that the search engine of the TDB works admirably for me as I search for forgotten answers I knew 20 years ago. Impending senility sucks
                  4) I agree with Duke that the CF has gone downhill----unless one is building a rest-mod and needs answers.
                  5) God bless NCRS.
                  Mike McCagh

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #10
                    Re: TDB participation

                    Originally posted by Keith Brodbeck (60464)
                    the NCRS website is clunky at best and can be very hard to navigate. if anything that is what turns people off.
                    Keith-----


                    I think our TDB works great. I have no complaints, at all.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Tom R.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • June 30, 1993
                      • 4081

                      #11
                      Re: TDB participation

                      Originally posted by Duke Williams (22045)
                      Back in the early days of the internet the TDB was very vibrant and great place to hang out for stimulating discussions of vintage Corvette technology and history. I wasn't disappointed that the "other" NCRS DB was shut down as it ended up being mostly full of BMW (bitch, moan, and whine) posts.
                      Remember the TDB is confronted with the competition and proliferation of alternative Corvette forums whether its generation specific registry, Corvette Forum, or various face book pages. Each serves a distinct segment of the Corvette hobby and in different ways, Then their is the price of entry...dues at $60.00!

                      Later generation Corvettes feed 21st century Corvette Clubs who wish to see America via their road-worthy Corvette...a market the resto-market has embraced. Frankly, it appears NCRS is no longer relevant to these road warrior clubs. Their interest is their club facebook page.
                      Tom Russo

                      78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie
                      78 Pace Car L82 M21
                      00 MY/TR/Conv

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                      • Keith B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • September 15, 2014
                        • 1575

                        #12
                        Re: TDB participation

                        Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                        Keith-----


                        I think our TDB works great. I have no complaints, at all.
                        the NCRS web site it self is the problem. Once you find the TDB it's fine

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                        • Harry S.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • July 31, 2002
                          • 5258

                          #13
                          Re: TDB participation

                          I have to problems with the TDB, works fine for me.


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                          • Mark E.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 1, 1993
                            • 4498

                            #14
                            Re: TDB participation

                            Originally posted by Harry Sadlock (38513)
                            I have to problems with the TDB, works fine for me.
                            Well, if the concensus is the TDB is fine, then someone needs to advise the board. They are planning to replace it.
                            Mark Edmondson
                            Dallas, Texas
                            Texas Chapter

                            1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                            1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                            • James W.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • December 1, 1990
                              • 2640

                              #15
                              Re: TDB participation

                              As a 24 year member I find the NCRS website okay to use, and as Duke has stated it seem that discussion has declined on the TDB. One reason may be that you can go to the CF or multiple C1, C2, C3, etc. groups on Facebook and get information and ask a question without having to pay for it. That being said, the answers that are sometimes given are not always correct. I frequent some of them on FB and give guidance/answers to questions that I know to be accurate.


                              Just my 2 cents.

                              James

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