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  • Jack H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1990
    • 9906

    #16
    Re: 65 Restoration

    Excellent reply! "Fact colored with opinion" is an EXCELLENT description of the process...

    NOBODY saw each/every car as it was built. Our judging knowledge is a quiltwork of forensic observation(s) over time, often 'colored' by small sample error.

    If this were a solved science, the judging task could be automated and robotics employed to spit out final scores. That's NOT the way things are!

    I can assure you that on any given day there will be errors of ommission and errors of comission in the scoring opinions rendered by those who judge cars. There are human factors at work and that's life...

    But the Central Limit Theorum is at work too (law of large numbers) meaning that while there may be a wrong or missed call here/there, with 4500 points total to work with, the car's bottom line score isn't impacted appreciably by an individual judging error. In the end, it's a 1-point here, 3-point there set of mistakes or legitimate differences of opinion that tend to raise ire on behalf of owners who seek TOTAL TRUTH. That's NOT a significant matter in the grand scheme of things....

    So, approach the judging experience this way:

    (1) Remember judging is a service performed by members for members.

    (2) Human factors are at work and there IS a degree of uncertainty involved in the process.

    (3) While scoring points are involved with each judgement call, constantly remind yourself to look at the big picture...what percentage of the overall score did this/that judgment call impart?

    (4) When an apparent judging authority tells you something or makes a specific call, view it simply as that person's "best efforts" opinion on that day. Consider it an input for further consideration rather than ABSOLUTE FACT.

    (5) Constantly remind yourself, this is a sport/hobby and having fun and learning is the objective. This is NOT a 'blood sport'....

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    • Martin T.
      Expired
      • May 31, 2006
      • 196

      #17
      Re: 65 Restoration

      Wow! I cannot believe the response. Thank all of you for such valuable direction. Jimmy's offer was incredible. This car is a little off-the-wall. There are a number of idiosyncrasies with regard to this early car. It seems that some of those working on the assembly were without all their nuts and bolts.

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      • Wayne M.
        Expired
        • March 1, 1980
        • 6414

        #18
        Re: 65 Restoration

        Originally posted by Martin Tait (45941)
        Wow! This car is a little off-the-wall. There are a number of idiosyncrasies with regard to this early car. It seems that some of those working on the assembly were without all their nuts and bolts.
        Martin -- feel free to email me on the little stuff (but not paint & chrome; I'm not that type of guy . I have an early '65 coupe 014xx that was probably affected by the strike in terms of workmanship.

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        • Henry S.
          Expired
          • April 30, 2005
          • 816

          #19
          Re: 65 Restoration

          Martin,

          Besides different restoration books and the NCRS site you may also check out the link below over at the Corvette Forum. Many of us are members of both boards and the link below has a sticky at the top of the C1-C2 Section with FAQ. You may find it useful.

          Take care,
          Shooter

          http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1585325

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          • Martin T.
            Expired
            • May 31, 2006
            • 196

            #20
            Re: 65 Restoration

            Wayne, I sent you a P.M.
            Henry, thank you. I have been using the forum for some information. I was ready to let this car go last night but, after some encouragement, I guess I will hang-in-there with it.

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            • James G.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • May 31, 1976
              • 1556

              #21
              Re: 65 Restoration

              Martin,
              I don't think the membership has a clue that your car is very unique and special, and therefore will probably be different than many 65's that have been restored or are under reconstruction today.

              What "YOU FIND" in the disassmbly will help historians "ANSWER" some of the questions about how a 65 Corvette was constructed.

              Personally, I think you should be talking to Gary Summerville, Jerry Bramlett, John Hinkley, John DeGregory, John Amgwert, and Brian Futo.

              These people were there......are experts in their fields for years.......have done body off restorations of like cars.......and are the best team of professionals I know to help you restore your car to the level you want to achieve.

              As Roger Penske has always said, " Give me a team of 110%, and I will give you results"

              I look forward to your journey and will help where I can.
              Over 80 Corvettes of fun ! Love Rochester Fuel Injection 57-65 cars. Love CORVETTE RACE CARS
              Co-Founder REGISTRY OF CORVETTE RACE CARS.COM

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              • Martin T.
                Expired
                • May 31, 2006
                • 196

                #22
                Re: 65 Restoration

                Jim, Thanks for the offer of help. I'll give you a call. We found a couple of troubling things that had me pretty discouraged. I spoke with Ed about them. I understand you and Ed will be together Friday/Saturday. Martin

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