What is this eBayer talking about???

[Tom P.]

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Joe;

I agree. When they closed down the old admin. building at the GM Locomotive plant where I worked they pitched out a whole lot of irreplaceable records, drawings, photos, and art work from way back in the early days of diesel electric locomotives. 75 years of history out in the trash. Some of us rummaged for what ever we could save, but there was just too much to go through and the practice was discouraged as they didn't want the rail fan magazines access to the "Mother Lode". What a shame, but that seems to be the GM way so nothing would surprise me.

Stu Fox

Sooooooooooooooooooooo, who the heck cares about diesel locos anyway????????????
If it ain't steam-------------it ain't right!!!!!!!

[Michael J.]

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Right, if only there were a way to make sure the BB C2 you are buying is the real deal. But as for now it just takes a lot of work, research, and sorting through phoney baloney cars. But it is caveat emptor.

[Joel F.]

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This thread is over a year old

[Tom H.]

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This thread is over a year old

My car is over 40 years old !!

[Valeria H.]

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But does anyone know what happened to the corvette in question????? Did anyone in this organization buy the car?
Valeria

[Robert R.]

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Tom,
Just imagine if ALCO or Baldwin also made cars!

Can you see it? ... a 4-8-8-4 steam powered sports car?!!

Bob

[John H.]

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Tom,
Just imagine if ALCO or Baldwin also made cars!

Bob

Bob -

ALCO DID make cars for a few years! When I was a kid, the owner of the Chrysler-Plymouth dealership in Hudson, Ohio had a beautifully-restored ALCO touring car (along with several other classics).

[Robert R.]

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John,
Amazing, I thought you were pulling my leg.
See the attached:

Alco automobiles

An Alco winning the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup.


The company diversified into the automobile business in 1906, producing French Berliet designs under license. Production was located at ALCO's Rhode Island Locomotive Works in Providence, Rhode Island. Two years later, the Berliet license was abandoned, and the company began to produce its own designs instead. Alco cars won the Vanderbilt Cup in both 1909 and 1910 and also competed in the Indianapolis 500 in 1911, but they had less success in sales, abandoning automobile manufacture in 1913. The Alco automobile story is chiefly notable for starting the automobile career of Walter P. Chrysler, the plant manager, who left for Buick in 1911 and subsequently founded the Chrysler automobile giant which went bankrupt in 2009.

I guess that was at a time when companies tried different things to continue to grow.

Thanks for the heads up , I learned something today.

Bob

[Brett H.]

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It's good to see that the C4 Challenge car paperwork still exists today. Not that many people are interested in them. I have every build sheet for every Challenge car from 1988-1990. Why? Because they exist. Why not?

[Kenneth B.]

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Joe, Chevrolet assembly plants didn't retain paper build documents - they went in the trash barrels every day. Only one year's production at St. Louis-Corvette would generate 40,000 individual build records, and there was nowhere to store that volume of paperwork.

OK
Then why did Pontiac have all of there build sheets. Way more Pontiacs than Corvettes. Another thing I wonder about no line sheets are found in the Corvettes. I must have been that the conspericy theory. I think Commies horded all the fuelie & big block parts.
KEN

[Brian M.]

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That race went right thru my town. Before my time.

John,
Amazing, I thought you were pulling my leg.
See the attached:

Alco automobiles

An Alco winning the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup.


The company diversified into the automobile business in 1906, producing French Berliet designs under license. Production was located at ALCO's Rhode Island Locomotive Works in Providence, Rhode Island. Two years later, the Berliet license was abandoned, and the company began to produce its own designs instead. Alco cars won the Vanderbilt Cup in both 1909 and 1910 and also competed in the Indianapolis 500 in 1911, but they had less success in sales, abandoning automobile manufacture in 1913. The Alco automobile story is chiefly notable for starting the automobile career of Walter P. Chrysler, the plant manager, who left for Buick in 1911 and subsequently founded the Chrysler automobile giant which went bankrupt in 2009.

I guess that was at a time when companies tried different things to continue to grow.

Thanks for the heads up , I learned something today.

Bob

[Joe L.]

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OK
Then why did Pontiac have all of there build sheets. Way more Pontiacs than Corvettes. Another thing I wonder about no line sheets are found in the Corvettes. I must have been that the conspericy theory. I think Commies horded all the fuelie & big block parts.
KEN

Ken------


Yes, there were a lot more Pontiacs built than Corvettes. However, there were LOTS more Chevrolets built than Pontiacs and therein lies the problem. Corvettes were a Chevrolet Motor Division vehicle and Chevrolet produced the vast majority of GM cars---probably more at that time than all other divisions combined. Apparently, so many that the Chevrolet Motor Division decided it was way too much bother to archive production records, especially when there was absolutely no business reason to do so.

If the Corvette had been a Pontiac Division vehicle, there would be records available today. But, it wasn't; it was a Chevrolet.

[John H.]

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Yes, there were a lot more Pontiacs built than Corvettes. However, there were LOTS more Chevrolets built than Pontiacs

Yup - 18 assembly plants built Chevrolets in the 60's; Pontiacs were built in the equivalent of two.