Correct 58 oil pan

[Ian G.]

Re: Correct 58 oil pan

Hi Loren,

I noticed you didn't answer any of my posts
No I wasn't making a crack at you, but answering Stew Allison's crack about me whining about buyign a pan for only $300 dollars. I was saying I'm not complainign that I got a pan for 300, but that I wasted my time and money on a wrong pan, because of the confusion around what is and isn't the right pan.

I'm satisifed with the info that Roy put out though. I don't blame anyone for the confusion. We are all detectives here hunting for 50 year old information. We certainly couldn't get to the bottom of it without pulling together.

Also, I've noticed prices on parts on ebay are way down, unless its NOS and then it seems pretty stable still.

[Justin B.]

Re: Correct 58 oil pan

Loren, I am still agreeing with you on this. I just want the enginerring minded people to look in this actual pan with the gussets and baffle and tell me why it was designed this way if it wasn't used in a high performance or special needs vehicle. It looks to me like the designers built this pan with gussets & baffle to keep oil in the bottom where the pump sits or to get the oil redirected to the bottom of the pan (as fast as possible) when the vehicle is on high corners or very nose up or very nose down. Do you agree?

[Stewart A.]

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Ian, Ian, Ian, sorry about the $300 bucks. I was actually being sarcastic what I was trying to say was $300 is a lot to pay for a pan that is not correct. Every dollar you put in these cars needs to be correct or it's just more money thrown in to the empty bucket.
Just my Aussie sense of humnmor backfiring on me again.
I would never put anyone down who drives a C1.
We must stick together there is not many of us C1 dudes left.
Stewy

[Ian G.]

Re: Correct 58 oil pan

no offense taken. Just put a smiley on it and you can say just about anything to me :P Hopefully I can make my money back from someone who JUST HAS to have a 57 passenger pan for their 57 chevy.

[Ray C.]

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What was the first year to use the high performance splash (trap) door?

Ray

[Loren L.]

Re: Correct 58 oil pan

1960. This marvelous system won't allow just "1960"...not enough letters don't you know....

[Loren S.]

Re: Correct 58 oil pan

Guess I need to get out the hammer and pound out the indentions on my #640 passenger pan. Or maybe a trick welder could modify the second step to make it look correct? Might be cheaper than the $600 large or so I bet a correct pan would go for.

[Justin B.]

Re: Correct 58 oil pan

I wouldn't through in the towel until you are 100% certain. Look in that pan Loren and tell me that the engineers didn't have a plan when they put those gussets and baffle in there. Does it look like they had high performance or low performance in mind to you? I think high. I'm not changing what I feel was original on my car.

[Roy B.]

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Nothing is writen in stone ,I've seen to many parts that were original that many think is wrong and if you feel a part is original go with it

[Rod K.]

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My 2c worth: I was at Kissimmee and observed what looked like three of the 642 pans Gary C says are original on '56-'57s, two on cars, including the '56 SR1, the third in a spectator's hand, apparently just purchased ($400 reported). Didn't look at any '58-up.

My speculation is that, as Joe Lucia continually states, the 642 was used in PRODUCTION, the 640 became the SERVICE replacement. Although I still have some reservation regarding the depression around the drain plug. An earlier thread (probably about a year ago) reported that '57-E'58 pans were completely flat on the bottom with the depression coming in sometime in '58. This jives with the three flat-bottomed pans I saw, but the 642 drawing shows a depression.

Justin, my guess is the ribs were to a) aid drainback past the fixed baffle, and/or b) for frame clearance, and had nothing further to do with performance. Remember, the C1 frame and the pass frames were different and possibly the pass req'd some add'l clearance, hence the corners were formed in to provide it. Being higher volume, the pass car pan would have been the logical SEVICE replacement.

[David D.]

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I think i"ll hold off buying that e-bay pan that goes off in a few minutes for my 60 because my pan isn't leaking and I'm going to wait until someone that was 'there' lets me know which pan is exactly correct. Stewart, can I join you? My money's on LL.