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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43193

    #31
    Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

    Originally posted by Jack Humphrey (17100)
    And, if memory serves from my days of employment with a Bay area modem company, the Sardine Factory has a wine list that can SERIOUSLY challenge the credit limit of even an American Express card!
    Jack-----


    You are correct. The wine list and prices are on the order of those found at the Carnellian Room in San Francisco and at the old Imperial Dynasty in Hanford, CA (now closed).

    Consequently, we will need to be very judicious about ordering wine lest the cost of the wine far exceed the cost of the dinner (I had this happen to me once at the Carnellian Room ).

    As far as how we handle it when the check arrives, that was the ONE "faux pas" of the otherwise wonderful evening we had there in 2002. That time, folks tried to "contribute to the pot" based upon what they had ordered. That system just does not work, especially when beverages and wine are ordered on a "group" basis.

    This time, I am going to strongly suggest that we simply divide up the total check, including tip, by the number of folks present and each person contribute that amount to the "pot". I realize that some folks might get "shorted" in this approach, but, in my experience over many years I've learned it's the only practical way to handle it. As a matter of fact, I do not drink wine or mixed drinks myself but I have no problem, whatsoever, in effectively sharing in the cost of those through equal sharing of the check. I also don't care that some folks may order more expensive menu items than me or that some may choose to have dessert while others don't.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43193

      #32
      Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

      Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
      Are you suggesting we try to get individual checks? Fat chance of that.
      Terry-----


      I agree. I doubt that there's an up-scale type restaurant in the country that will provide separate checks. In any event, the Sardine Factory will not. Plus, even if separate checks were possible, how would items like bottles of wine be handled?
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15573

        #33
        Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

        Almost any restaurant will not make seperate checks if the group is larger than X people. Kind of standard fare. I was just trying to yank Jack's chain. It is so much fun.

        Those of us who don't drink deserve what we get.
        Terry

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        • Jean C.
          Expired
          • June 30, 2003
          • 688

          #34
          Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

          Gee, you mean that is some instances the bar bill can exceed the dinner bill? I have NEVER known that to happen.

          Sounds like a plan.
          Best regards,

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11608

            #35
            Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

            Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
            Those of us who don't drink deserve what we get.
            That would be called dessert.

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            • Paul O.
              Frequent User
              • August 31, 1990
              • 1716

              #36
              Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

              Joe the wife and myself are interested in the dinning experience do you have a time of departure from San Jose. The wife will be on the tour of San Fran that day and I think she would return around 4PM. Also we are renting a car and should have room for a couple or two singles. Paul 18046

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              • Jack H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 1990
                • 9906

                #37
                Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

                Oh, ye have led a VERY sheltered life, Mr. Charlie!!!

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                • Jack H.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 1, 1990
                  • 9906

                  #38
                  Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

                  Actually, I thought Terry's statement was a decent pun, Pat! It's not 'that' far to the Palm Desert now...

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                  • Jack H.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1990
                    • 9906

                    #39
                    Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

                    Yes, there was a time, long long ago, when a Bay area modem company was trying to entice me out of 'retirement' to come to work for them as VP of engineering....

                    The Board Chairman hired a limo and we 'popped' down to Monterey for lunch from Sunnyvale. At the Sardine Factory the Board Chairman tossed me the wine list and told me to pick a wine.

                    The company's CEO (an ex-TI VP) FREAKED, lunged across the table and pulled the wine list out of my hands! The two gentlemen excused themselves from the table, walked across the restaurant and held a private but HEATED conversation...

                    Bottom line, I only had a minute or two in which to flip pages, but it appeared their menu recited a 'delightful' selection of wines provided your budget for lunch was unlimited...

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                    • Rick S.
                      Expired
                      • January 1, 2003
                      • 1203

                      #40
                      Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

                      I don't feel too bad for popping for a couple of beers at Pebble Beach CC for my son and myself last year. But if he recommends going to the Sardine Factory after a round of golf I think I will draw the line after listening to the previous descriptions of the wine list. I thought golf was expensive but I can't afford "Donald Trump" restaurants when it comes out the opposite place it went in!! At least you can take fantastic pictures of your golf course and enjoy the end result.
                      Rick
                      Looking back down the 18th fairway of Pebble Beach

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1989
                        • 11608

                        #41
                        Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

                        Originally posted by Rick Smith (39266)
                        I don't feel too bad for popping for a couple of beers at Pebble Beach CC for my son and myself last year. But if he recommends going to the Sardine Factory after a round of golf I think I will draw the line after listening to the previous descriptions of the wine list. I thought golf was expensive but I can't afford "Donald Trump" restaurants when it comes out the opposite place it went in!! At least you can take fantastic pictures of your golf course and enjoy the end result.
                        Rick
                        Looking back down the 18th fairway of Pebble Beach
                        Pebble Beach is at $495 right now for 18 holes.
                        I'd skip golf at Pebble Beach and visit the Sardine Factory any day, having been to both. That take a lot for me to say since I think that Pebble is just about the nicest piece of scenery I've ever visited. In fact, it "almost" tempted me to actually play a round. However, since I don't golf worth a ....
                        FYI my kids are trying to convince us to take them out to Monterey again for our 20th Anniversary next year.

                        Note that per the Sardine Factory's own web site, wine starts at $30/bottle. It just happens to "end" at $10 000/bottle.
                        Since 1968, The Sardine Factory has set the standard for fine dining in Monterey. Our luxurious dining rooms, attentive service and exquisite cuisine provide an unforgettable dining experience.

                        And, I've not had wine at either of my Sardine Factory visits.

                        Here's the sample menu:

                        Note that any NCRS "awards banquet" you've ever been to is more $ than this.

                        Patrick

                        PS. Note that the pics below are from 2005. Ryan is now taller than Joe and my wife. Those of you who have seen him recently will note this.
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                        • Rick S.
                          Expired
                          • January 1, 2003
                          • 1203

                          #42
                          Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

                          Patrick,
                          At least when you are "done" with the golf and you take a picture of the "end result" it doesn't look like **it.
                          Rick

                          P.S. Two beers at Pebble Beach, $20.00

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                          • Patrick H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1989
                            • 11608

                            #43
                            Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

                            Originally posted by Rick Smith (39266)
                            Patrick,
                            At least when you are "done" with the golf and you take a picture of the "end result" it doesn't look like **it.
                            Rick

                            P.S. Two beers at Pebble Beach, $20.00
                            I'd say the picture of the 2002 dinner doesn't look any worse to me either.

                            But, I'm extremely biased as I swore off golf in Sept of 1992 and haven't touched a club since, other than to sell mine 2 years ago at a garage sale. I'd much rather enjoy the cameraderie of a meal than the golf links.
                            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                            71 "deer modified" coupe
                            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                            2008 coupe
                            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43193

                              #44
                              Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

                              Originally posted by Paul Oslansky (18046)
                              Joe the wife and myself are interested in the dinning experience do you have a time of departure from San Jose. The wife will be on the tour of San Fran that day and I think she would return around 4PM. Also we are renting a car and should have room for a couple or two singles. Paul 18046
                              Paul-----

                              I would not anticipate us leaving before about 5 PM. We pretty much need to be clear of all the other convention day activities, especially those involving the cars. So, if your wife is back by 4PM, there should be no problem. Final determination of departure timing, of course, will involve final restaurant reservations and transportation.

                              The trip to the restaurant is about 75 miles and will take about 1-1/2 hours. Traffic out of San Jose, south on US 101, will be significant at the approximate time we're leaving.
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                              • Richard D.
                                Infrequent User
                                • February 1, 1994
                                • 9

                                #45
                                Re: National Convention Dinner Trip

                                Please include myself and Richard Dunham - we won't have transportation either. Great idea, we're looking forward to the "big culinary adventure". Richard DeMay

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