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  • Michael F.
    Expired
    • June 4, 2009
    • 291

    Modified Vettes

    Are modified Vettes welcome at NCRS events? If so, in what context?
  • Tom H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1993
    • 3440

    #2
    Re: Modified Vettes

    I would say nothing is turned away, but what are you trying to accomplish ?? Just participating in the event, you may go into the sportsman class. If you are looking for a baseline to begin a restoration of a modified car, you could put it through judging.


    How "modified" is your car ?? Are you looking to have it judged ??

    This page might help !!

    Tom Hendricks
    Proud Member NCRS #23758
    NCM Founding Member # 1143
    Corvette Department Manager and
    Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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    • Michael F.
      Expired
      • June 4, 2009
      • 291

      #3
      Re: Modified Vettes

      Tom thanks for the reply. It's 98% unmodified. It has 4 wheel discs and Holley and vintage air. Being a 63, is that considered modified?

      I started this thread in response to a Forum question. I think you just answered it.

      Vettes that have modifications are entered in the sportsman class?

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      • Tom H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • December 1, 1993
        • 3440

        #4
        Re: Modified Vettes

        Michael ! You don't have to enter your car in sportsman. Your car could be judged, but you will have to be prepared to take the deduction for non factory items, like the ones you mentioned.

        If your car has never been judged, I wouldn't be afraid to have it done. You will learn about your car and might even have some fun.

        My point is your car shouldn't be excluded from the judging process, but will suffer deductions.

        I would enter your car in the event slot that you feel would be the most appropriate for you.
        Tom Hendricks
        Proud Member NCRS #23758
        NCM Founding Member # 1143
        Corvette Department Manager and
        Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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        • Steven N.
          Very Frequent User
          • April 30, 2002
          • 214

          #5
          Re: Modified Vettes

          Hey Tom,

          Not to change topics , but does Buds Chevrolet have any cool t-shirts................Steven J.

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          • Dick W.
            Former NCRS Director Region IV
            • June 30, 1985
            • 10483

            #6
            Re: Modified Vettes

            All Corvettes are welcome at NCRS meets. While some do not meet the criteria of being as delivered from the selling dealer, never the less they have a place.

            I have been guilty of literally butchering a couple of cars, '61 w/bumpers removed and opening closed up, three tail lights, tunnel ram, headers, and more. I enjoyed the car for what it was and you should do the same. Each car is a small reflection of the owner and his tastes.

            Bring it own. Enjoy the fellowship and make new friends
            Dick Whittington

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            • John H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1997
              • 16513

              #7
              Re: Modified Vettes

              Joe -

              I think that's a pretty harsh assessment; I've seen lots of modified cars at many different NCRS meets over the last 20 years, entered in Sportsman or not, and their owners can participate at whatever level they're comfortable with. It's not all about the cars - it's about the people.

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              • William L.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 1, 1988
                • 944

                #8
                Re: Modified Vettes

                Micheal believe me 99% of the guys in the NCRS are not like this person.
                I enjoy looking at the Corvettes in the Sportsman area and talking to the owners and would be PROUD to see you and your car at St Louis Chapter event.
                Its no wonder that a lot of the Corvette community don't like the NCRS with NCRS members making statements like that.
                As a fellow NCRS member I am asking you to come to a NCRS event and enjoy your self. We are not all like him.
                Bill
                Bill Lacy
                1967 427/435 National Top Flight Bloomington Gold
                1998 Indy Pacecar

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                • Steven N.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • April 30, 2002
                  • 214

                  #9
                  Re: Modified Vettes

                  I'd love to see one of the Rat Fink corvette from the 60's.......

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                  • Clark K.
                    Expired
                    • January 12, 2009
                    • 536

                    #10
                    Re: Modified Vettes

                    Originally posted by Michael Frost (50487)
                    Are modified Vettes welcome at NCRS events? If so, in what context?

                    Is this your car? :-)

                    (see attached photo)
                    Attached Files

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                    • Chris E.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • November 3, 2006
                      • 1322

                      #11
                      Re: Modified Vettes

                      Michael, as mentioned earlier, if you want to have the car flight judged, and you want a Top Flight, you can only afford to lose 270 points.

                      Given that you have a different carb and brake setup, I would suspect the following deductions would apply:

                      Lose all carb points: 120
                      Lose all brake points: 20 (10 for front, 10 for rear)

                      That puts you at 140 points down. You could lose another 130 and still get Top Flight. That's a fairly good sized margin, but not huge.

                      Like others have said, if you want to learn more about how your car matches up to the typically accepted factory standard, take it through Flight Judging.

                      If you want to attend an event, maybe judge at it, or attend a seminar at the event, by all means enter your car in the Sportsman Class and drive it there!

                      It really depends on what you'd like to do with your car, if anything.
                      Chris Enstrom
                      North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
                      1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
                      2011 Z06, red/red

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                      • Michael W.
                        Expired
                        • April 1, 1997
                        • 4290

                        #12
                        Re: Modified Vettes

                        Originally posted by Michael Frost (50487)
                        Tom thanks for the reply. It's 98% unmodified. It has 4 wheel discs and Holley and vintage air. Being a 63, is that considered modified?

                        I started this thread in response to a Forum question. I think you just answered it.

                        Vettes that have modifications are entered in the sportsman class?
                        Michael,

                        If you've started this question in connection to the discussion going on at 'that other' website, be aware that cars entered into Sportsman class do not get judged. This category is for people to bring out their cars of all years and condition just for the joy of driving them and letting others see them. That's why I do it.

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                        • Jerry W.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • January 27, 2009
                          • 588

                          #13
                          Re: Modified Vettes

                          Why was this post modified (posts deleted ) and by whom ? I was following this post comments only to find some of the posts were deleted without comment.

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                          • Tom H.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • December 1, 1993
                            • 3440

                            #14
                            Re: Modified Vettes

                            Originally posted by Steven Neel (37940)
                            Hey Tom,

                            Not to change topics , but does Buds Chevrolet have any cool t-shirts................Steven J.

                            We do a T shirt for our annual cruise in that is way cool !!! Not sure If I have any left. If I do, I will try to round ya one up !
                            Tom Hendricks
                            Proud Member NCRS #23758
                            NCM Founding Member # 1143
                            Corvette Department Manager and
                            Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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                            • Ronald L.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • October 18, 2009
                              • 3248

                              #15
                              Re: Modified Vettes

                              Would seem that the "Joe" post was deleted?

                              What does wrong color paint get as a deduction?

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