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[Michael W.]

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Not completely true: we have 10,724 out of 15,223 (70%) members with a email address registered and I think at least half of the people who haven't registered an email address will have one but didn't bother to register it...

And 64% of statistics are made up on the spot, but only 18% of people are aware of that fact.

Having an email address is very different than participating on a discussion board.

[Vinnie P.]

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Not completely true: we have 10,724 out of 15,223 (70%) members with a email address registered and I think at least half of the people who haven't registered an email address will have one but didn't bother to register it...

Rob...yes...that is true...however when you look at the real numbers generated by a TDB report, it tells quite a different story...they just don't visit the site or TDB on a regular basis

The average number of Technical Discussion Board members visiting the forum per month of a given year is usually in the mid 300 range...quite a difference from the entire membership or those that have registered...

[Kenneth B.]

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Received an email advising "the survey was not authorized" and was directed to remove it.

Gary
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I thought this was going to happen! The powers that be want to keep things the way they are. My hope was that people like me that need to sell a corvette & don't have 3 months to wait till it comes out in the Restorer like I am. That's why I would be willing to pay to have a for sale forum on here. Maybe that they saw that a lot of members wanted something for nothing & canned the idea. Just my take.
\ KEN

[Doug F.]

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What I don't understand is that the post had over 1200 views, but only 130+ votes. Where are the other 15,000+ members?

Vinnie, i didn't bother to vote because i was so sure the post would be deleted and nothing would come of it, but since you seem interested, i think it would be a great idea and yes the proposed fees were too high

[Gerry P.]

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Rob...yes...that is true...however when you look at the real numbers generated by a TDB report, it tells quite a different story...they just don't visit the site or TDB on a regular basis

The average number of Technical Discussion Board members visiting the forum per month of a given year is usually in the mid 300 range...quite a difference from the entire membership or those that have registered...

Unfortunately, I doubt that there are statistics on how many actually read the driveline - it may not be significantly more than the TDB viewers as there may be many passive members, not reading either venue. I for one seldom read the driveline - I love old cars but not old communications technology.
Gerry

[Steven C.]

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Rob...yes...that is true...however when you look at the real numbers generated by a TDB report, it tells quite a different story...they just don't visit the site or TDB on a regular basis

The average number of Technical Discussion Board members visiting the forum per month of a given year is usually in the mid 300 range...quite a difference from the entire membership or those that have registered...

Vinnie, thanks, my point exactly.

If we want change, fine, but there is a mechanism and protocol to effect change. Contact your regional representative.

[Jim D.]

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What I don't understand is that the post had over 1200 views, but only 130+ votes. Where are the other 15,000+ members?

The majority probably didn't vote because it would be falling on deaf ears anyway.
As far as putting for sale ads in the Driveline, why should I wait up to 2 months for an ad to be published. I have a ton of parts that I'll just put on E-Bay and they'll be sold, shipped and I'll be paid in less than 1 week.

[Paul Y.]

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Vinnie, I didn't want to contrubute to the survey because of the heatedness of some of the contrubutors. Paul E. Young

[Henry S.]

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Good Point Vinnie. Maybe the BoD should structure a proposal and define what the scope of change would be and put it to an "online" survey vote.

Publish this in the Restorer so that everyone is made aware and set a reasonable time span for voting.

If the "yes" votes carry a majority of the membership, then we have our answer. We can assume all members who do not vote are voting no. This would allow those not online to "vote" absentee.

tc

For the record....

IMHO we are making this way too complicated. I think the survey question is this easy...

1) On a 6 month trial basis, should the NCRS create "For Sale" and "Items Wanted" forums in addition to the published Driveline?

If the majority votes yes, give it a whirl. If this causes a drop in advertising dollars, then drop it or start charging for the use of the online classifieds. After a 6 month trial, you will have a feel for the number of ads being posted and can establish a proper user fee to offset the advertising dollar loss.

I agree with you Tracy. I have no doubt the decisions made by the BoD are based on the est interest of the NCRS membership. With that in mind a vote via the publication (Driveline) received by each member should be taken. Majority should rule.

[Richard J.]

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Well... the "other" forum has it... and it's free... :::shrug:::

[Jeff A.]

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I used to read the Driveline ads, but after several contacts with sellers advising me that the part in question had been sold three weeks earlier, I now deposit the Driveline directly in the recycling bin the day that I receive it. It's a waste of paper and postage. It's time to go electronic.

[Patrick H.]

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What I don't understand is that the post had over 1200 views, but only 130+ votes. Where are the other 15,000+ members?

That's easy, Vinnie.

I didn't vote - and I suspect others did not as well - because I did not like or wish to vote for any of the options.

Pay? You gotta be nuts. Most of us already use the free forum over on CF if we want quick buy/sell. I may be very much pro-NCRS and am moderately active in the club, but I'm not going to pay for what I can get free elsewhere, and with a larger audience. That's just bad economics.

I don't care if the NCRS takes the ads in the Driveline and makes them "banner ads" in an online Driveline. That would make absolute sense, and in fact it is what CF as well as many other forums do. However, making our members go from "free" print ads to "for pay" electronic ads -which is what the poll asked - is just asking for the proposal to fail.

Patrick

[Gary J.]

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I don't care if the NCRS takes the ads in the Driveline and makes them "banner ads" in an online Driveline. That would make absolute sense, and in fact it is what CF as well as many other forums do. However, making our members go from "free" print ads to "for pay" electronic ads -which is what the poll asked - is just asking for the proposal to fail.

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I think this is the problem, is the ads in the Driveline. Has anyone sit down and figured out how much money is spent on the ads in the Driveline each issue? So if we put the "For Sale" section over here and the readership fell off of the Driveline how long do yo think that the venders are going to continue to advertise there. Not long, thus a loss of revenue for NCRS.

[Rob M.]

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Rob...yes...that is true...however when you look at the real numbers generated by a TDB report, it tells quite a different story...they just don't visit the site or TDB on a regular basis

The average number of Technical Discussion Board members visiting the forum per month of a given year is usually in the mid 300 range...quite a difference from the entire membership or those that have registered...

Vinnie, I would envision a new system whenever it is decided a online equivalent of Driveline was needed. More like an e-Bay or www.marktplaats.nl setup so not necessarily being part of the TDB... Participating on a forum is something totally different then a market place for Corvette parts so it might attract another, maybe bigger (partly overlapping) part of our membership... Lets not confuse the TDB with a potential NCRS part marketplace...

[Stephen R.]

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The best part of buying/selling on line is that you can search for a particular part or year, you don't have to go through 10,000 ads that don't have any use for your purpose. The bad part is when a seller puts up many parts and then either doesn't answer or gets overwhelmed with responses, gets confused, gives up and disappears.