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  • Tony S.
    NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
    • April 30, 1981
    • 969

    A. O. Smith door?

    Riddle me this Batman. Is the C2 door in the attached photo an A. O. Smith door?

    Thanks!
    Tony
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    Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
    Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
    Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
    Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
    Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.
  • Scott S.
    Very Frequent User
    • March 1, 1979
    • 747

    #2
    Re: A. O. Smith door?

    Yes!.............................................. .

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    • Wayne M.
      Expired
      • March 1, 1980
      • 6414

      #3
      Re: A. O. Smith door?

      Originally posted by Anthony Stein (4600)
      ..... Is the C2 door in the attached photo an A. O. Smith door? ...
      Tony -- Yes; your middle two rivets are large flat heads. For St.Louis, all four in this area are pop-rivets.

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      • Tony S.
        NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
        • April 30, 1981
        • 969

        #4
        Re: A. O. Smith door?

        Thanks guys for the confirmation. It's always great tapping into the brain trust.
        Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
        Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
        Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
        Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
        Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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        • Joe C.
          Expired
          • August 31, 1999
          • 4598

          #5
          Re: A. O. Smith door?

          Now, you have to add to that the method of ID-ing a St.Louis body versus an AO Smith body.

          Hint: This determination can not be made for Corvettes with power windows.

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          • Tony S.
            NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
            • April 30, 1981
            • 969

            #6
            Re: A. O. Smith door?

            Joe, are you talking about the St. Louis "dot"?
            Tony
            Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
            Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
            Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
            Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
            Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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            • Page C.
              Very Frequent User
              • February 1, 1979
              • 802

              #7
              Re: A. O. Smith door?

              I have seen the dimple in the front door jam for both St. Louis and AO Smith cars. In fact my AO Smith couple has the dimples.
              Also if you scroll down to the simliar threads at the bottom of these post you will see a photo I posted sometime back of the interior metal structure of a AO Smith door. All the internal metal in an AO Smith door is primed in the greenish shade of primer verses the metal in St. Louis doors which are in black primer. This also includes the 2 removable access panels covered by the door panel.
              Page Campbell

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              • Philip C.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • December 1, 1984
                • 1117

                #8
                Re: A. O. Smith door?

                Originally posted by Anthony Stein (4600)
                Riddle me this Batman. Is the C2 door in the attached photo an A. O. Smith door?

                Thanks!
                Tony
                UNLESS its a 1963 door than it could be a St louis Phil 8063

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                • Wayne W.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 30, 1982
                  • 3605

                  #9
                  Re: A. O. Smith door?

                  Originally posted by Philip Castaldo (8063)
                  UNLESS its a 1963 door than it could be a St louis Phil 8063
                  If it was a 63 door, it certainly would be a St. Louis door, but in this case, yes, it is an AOS.

                  There are many ways of determining whether a body was done at AOS or St. Louis. This is just one, but, looking at doors is not conclusive as doors can be changed.

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                  • Dino L.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • February 1, 1996
                    • 694

                    #10
                    Re: A. O. Smith door?

                    This thread is interesting....what was the door jamb dot originally used for? Did that represent the cutout point for PW slot?

                    Also what other means besides trim tag info identifies the AO smith versus St Louis bodies?
                    Dino Lanno

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                    • Joe C.
                      Expired
                      • August 31, 1999
                      • 4598

                      #11
                      Re: A. O. Smith door?

                      Originally posted by Dino Lanno (27248)
                      This thread is interesting....what was the door jamb dot originally used for? Did that represent the cutout point for PW slot?

                      Also what other means besides trim tag info identifies the AO smith versus St Louis bodies?
                      There are many others, most of which involve method of metal parts priming. All of which can be duplicated on a restored car.

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                      • Philip C.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • December 1, 1984
                        • 1117

                        #12
                        Re: A. O. Smith door?

                        Originally posted by Wayne Womble (5569)
                        If it was a 63 door, it certainly would be a St. Louis door, but in this case, yes, it is an AOS.

                        There are many ways of determining whether a body was done at AOS or St. Louis. This is just one, but, looking at doors is not conclusive as doors can be changed.
                        The photo ONLY shows the door edge, Phil 8063

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                        • Wayne W.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 30, 1982
                          • 3605

                          #13
                          Re: A. O. Smith door?

                          Originally posted by Philip Castaldo (8063)
                          The photo ONLY shows the door edge, Phil 8063
                          I understand that, but all 63s were St. Louis.

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                          • Joe C.
                            Expired
                            • August 31, 1999
                            • 4598

                            #14
                            Re: A. O. Smith door?

                            The photo shows a Corvette door with 2 flat head and 2 pop rivets under the dogleg weatherstrip.

                            If all St.Louis Corvette doors used 4 pop and no flat head rivets under the dogleg weatherstrip,

                            and all 1963 Corvettes had bodies manufactured in Missouri,

                            then the door pictured in the photo could not be a 1963 Corvette door.

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                            • Scott S.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • March 1, 1979
                              • 747

                              #15
                              Re: A. O. Smith door?

                              Sometimes the hinge box inside the door becomes loose. At first, one would think that this was due to sloppy hinge pins. The hinge box is affixed to the door with bonding adhesive and additional large flat head rivets. The box is installed before the outer door panel goes onto the door frame. so internal repair requires the skin to come off. These large rivets can be changed with 1/4-20 weld studs with flat heads. The weld studs look like rivets.
                              Scott

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