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  • Frank M.
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    • December 16, 2009
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    Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event?

  • Kenneth B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1984
    • 2084

    #2
    Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

    Originally posted by Frank Mascari (51131)
    Or do you have a class for slightly modified? I joined NCRS to mainly to find parts and get good instruction on how to do some of the restoration myself.

    I will say about any question I have searched you guys have done it or talked about it and said how to do it. It’s been real easy for what I’ve done so far.

    The corvette I have has had a frame off about five years ago, But the interior wasn’t done very well, I was able to find the correct seats, I had the instrument panel restored and reinstalled it and it all works great.

    But everyone here seems to talk numbers, so that’s why I am asking about the NCRS events. I know the transmission is incorrect to the car, So does this automatically disqualify the corvette?
    NCRS dose not judge the transmission or rear end for #'S. If the engine code is for a auto. & the car has a 4- speed it would be big point loss.
    KEN
    65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
    What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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    • Harry S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 31, 2002
      • 5258

      #3
      Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

      Frank, it all depends on what you want to do with the car. If you are looking to return the car to original, then by all means bring it to a chapter meet for judging. This will help you establish a baseline about your car. It will help you make a final decision as to the cars destiny.

      You can always bring it and enter it for Sportsman. Drive it to events and chat with other owners.

      It's a personal relationship between you and your car.


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      • Douglas L.
        Very Frequent User
        • August 31, 2003
        • 299

        #4
        Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

        Frank,

        When you do take your car to an NCRS event, and I hope you do, at least you would be honest about your car!

        If you enjoy what you have the way it is, that's all that matters. If you want your car to meet the specific expectations of other people, in this case judges, that's a different matter. As you said, you have been slowly making corrections to the car. So that sounds like that's important to you.

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        • Terry M.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • September 30, 1980
          • 15573

          #5
          Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

          Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
          NCRS dose not judge the transmission or rear end for #'S. If the engine code is for a auto. & the car has a 4- speed it would be big point loss.
          KEN
          Maybe not so much points loss Ken. It would be a challenge for the judges. They would have to decide if the engine was correct, the frame correct, or the transmission correct -- or some combination of the above. If the decision nixed the engine, then yes it could be up to 350 points loss out of 4500 points. But the frame and transmission don't have too many points attached to them because they are so difficult to assess.

          I personally really love these kinds of challenges -- but then I am a little off kilter in so many ways.

          Frank, I see you are in Indiana. Too bad it is not a C3 (or is it?); I would love to judge it if you brought it to the Chapter meet in Valparaiso. But I have to tell you I don't do anything but C3s. It is against my principles to judge anything else.
          Terry

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          • Kenneth B.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • August 31, 1984
            • 2084

            #6
            Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

            [quote=Terry McManmon (3966);536734]Maybe not so much points loss Ken. It would be a challenge for the judges. They would have to decide if the engine was correct, the frame correct, or the transmission correct -- or some combination of the above. If the decision nixed the engine, then yes it could be up to 350 points loss out of 4500 points. But the frame and transmission don't have too many points attached to them because they are so difficult to assess.

            I personally really love these kinds of challenges -- but then I am a little off kilter in so many ways.

            TERRY
            I am glad tht you finally found out that you need help. I guess that if I brought my early 70LT-1 with auto & AC & PS you might have a problem with it? LOL
            KEN
            65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
            What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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            • Steven S.
              Expired
              • November 1, 1995
              • 151

              #7
              Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

              There are other things you can do with in NCRS with your car. Even with the wrong motor, it can still get 2nd or 3rd flight which allows you to go for a Founder's Award. Drive it to meets and get Sportsman points.

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              • Tracy C.
                Expired
                • July 31, 2003
                • 2739

                #8
                Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

                I highly recommend that you take the car to a NCRS chapter judging event near your location. After having it judged, you will have a basis for a decision to go all out to restore it or not.

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                • Brian M.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • February 1, 1997
                  • 1837

                  #9
                  Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

                  I agree. ...
                  Originally posted by Tracy Crisler (40411)
                  I highly recommend that you take the car to a NCRS chapter judging event near your location. After having it judged, you will have a basis for a decision to go all out to restore it or not.

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                  • Chris H.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • April 1, 2000
                    • 837

                    #10
                    Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

                    Frank, by all means bring your car to NCRS events. You dont have to have the car judged to be involved with the NCRS.

                    Quite honestly, looking at over restored Top Flight cars all the time can get kind of boring. I find it quite refreshing when I see one these cars that still sports some modifications from Back In The Day.
                    1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43193

                      #11
                      Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event


                      Frank------

                      As I have often stated, in my opinion "matching numbers" is the least important quality a Corvette can have. Of course, many disagree with me for one reason or another. To me, original configuration is the most important aspect for a restored or original Corvette-----" matching numbers" are way down my list since they are a minuscule part of configuration.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Kenneth B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • August 31, 1984
                        • 2084

                        #12
                        Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

                        Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                        Frank------

                        As I have often stated, in my opinion "matching numbers" is the least important quality a Corvette can have. Of course, many disagree with me for one reason or another. To me, original configuration is the most important aspect for a restored or original Corvette-----" matching numbers" are way down my list since they are a minuscule part of configuration.
                        JOE
                        Well said & so true. I am sure only a small amount of old Corvettes have the original motors. The most importent part is that what the car is as what it was.
                        KEN
                        65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                        What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                        • Steven S.
                          Expired
                          • August 29, 2007
                          • 571

                          #13
                          Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

                          Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
                          JOE
                          Well said & so true. I am sure only a small amount of old Corvettes have the original motors. The most importent part is that what the car is as what it was.
                          KEN
                          Also well said!

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                          • Michael H.
                            Expired
                            • January 29, 2008
                            • 7477

                            #14
                            Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

                            Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
                            JOE
                            Well said & so true. I am sure only a small amount of old Corvettes have the original motors. The most importent part is that what the car is as what it was.
                            KEN
                            If 5 owners of cars with original blocks and 5 owners of cars with non original blocks were discussing the importance of an original block, I wonder which owners would be on which side of the debate?

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                            • Tom P.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • April 1, 1980
                              • 1814

                              #15
                              Re: Would it be worthwhile to bring a non-matching numbers corvette to any NCRS event

                              DANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                              I'm not beliving what I just read here in this discussion!!
                              It appears there are/have been more attitude changes than I have been aware of------------------------------or maybe it's that the old guard is FINALLY beginning to succumb to the fact that there is such a thing as NON-matching number Corvettes-----------------and that it's OK to own one!

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