Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

**John C.** · October 19, 2011, 01:06 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Peter

Check out this previous thread on the subject.

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...+pins&uid=4653

Don't rely on the safety pin to hold on the wheel. It is the clamping force of the spinner that is doing all the work. Original wheels did not use pins and they worked just fine. The pin is more to prevent someone from quickly stealing your wheel than anything else.

John

**Dick W.** · October 19, 2011, 01:21 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Need bigger hammer and harder licks.

**Peter N.** · October 19, 2011, 01:36 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Thanks John & Dick

I have read every post on this issue & my head is either spinning or shut down completely...I am totally lost & confused.

I wish someone would lay this out as if talking to the child that I am on this issue.

Why has this happened to only the RF wheel, even AFTER I've been hitting the spinner with a 5 lb lead hammer since it's been in Calif.

Looking at the photo, it looks like the pin is wedged in a gap between the rim & hub. It's moved from it's orifice to where it doesn't belong, & the gaps in the wheel/hub look uneven. Couldn't this come as a result if the wheels hole was oblong/not round? I'm of the opinion that perhaps this wheel is damaged & that's the source of the problem.

**Tom H.** · October 19, 2011, 01:51 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Just asking, and I don't know if would even matter, but do you have the adapter installed correctly with the correct "long" lug nuts ?

**Joel T.** · October 19, 2011, 02:14 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Originally posted by Peter Nelson (53710)

Thanks John & Dick

I have read every post on this issue & my head is either spinning or shut down completely...I am totally lost & confused.

I wish someone would lay this out as if talking to the child that I am on this issue.

Why has this happened to only the RF wheel, even AFTER I've been hitting the spinner with a 5 lb lead hammer since it's been in Calif.

Looking at the photo, it looks like the pin is wedged in a gap between the rim & hub. It's moved from it's orifice to where it doesn't belong, & the gaps in the wheel/hub look uneven. Couldn't this come as a result if the wheels hole was oblong/not round? I'm of the opinion that perhaps this wheel is damaged & that's the source of the problem.

Peter;

A couple of things. Forget about those "safety pins".. they will not keep a spinner from coming loose... original KOs did not have them!! Second, real KO wheels are side-dependent, meaning there are two specifically for the left side of the car and two specifically for the right side.

If those little spinner caps (your picture) come off, I would just go out a pick up a couple of spares.. they are for looks only, not function and do nothing to keep you wheel tight. They just pop in and pop out...

When your KOs are on correctly, the TOP OF THE SPINNER will rotate to the REAR of the car when tightening... If you are on the left (driver) side this means you will see a clockwise rotation when tightening. Conversely on the right side, you should see a CCW rotation when tightening. If this is not true then something is installed incorrectly. Perhaps the dealer got them mixed up, in whole or in part.. I would check this.

Once you are sure they are installed correctly.. forget the little lead hammer, put it away for judging and get one of the available tools (see the thread suggested which shows two different ones). You need to apply considerable force on those spinners to ensure yourself of safe operation...

I have had real KOs on my 1963 and now on my 1965. I throw the little pins away and use the special tool and a big hammer... no problems!

Have fun!

Joel

**Peter N.** · October 19, 2011, 02:17 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Originally posted by Tom Hendricks (23758)

Just asking, and I don't know if would even matter, but do you have the adapter installed correctly with the correct "long" lug nuts ?

The dealer did all the installation, so I'm in the dark.

What about this...I'll remove the wheel, take pics of what I find & perhaps u folks could tell me what in fact I do have & recommend what I should do next?

I'd like to get rid of these wheels & just use the OEMs. The idea of using these repo's (that cost me $1,600+$120) was because they were alleged to be safer than the OEMs

**Dick W.** · October 19, 2011, 02:24 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Originally posted by Tom Hendricks (23758)

Just asking, and I don't know if would even matter, but do you have the adapter installed correctly with the correct "long" lug nuts ?

Very good point Tom

**Tom H.** · October 19, 2011, 02:32 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Originally posted by Peter Nelson (53710)

The idea of using these repo's (that cost me $1,600+$120) was because they were alleged to be safer than the OEMs

Hang on. We'll get ya fixed up. All of the wheels are safe. It's the installation that's dangerous. User error can be the kiss of death on knock offs.

Post up a picture of what's under that left front wheel and let us have a look.

**Peter N.** · October 19, 2011, 04:00 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Originally posted by Tom Hendricks (23758)

Hang on. We'll get ya fixed up. All of the wheels are safe. It's the installation that's dangerous. User error can be the kiss of death on knock offs.

Post up a picture of what's under that left front wheel and let us have a look.

Thanks to all of u....I changing into work clothes & using my lead hammer that I purchased for just this purpose & in the words of my ex-Gov...."I'll be back"

**Tom H.** · October 19, 2011, 04:05 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Originally posted by Peter Nelson (53710)

Thanks to all of u....I changing into work clothes & using my lead hammer that I purchased for just this purpose & in the words of my ex-Gov...."I'll be back"

Make sure you don't whack the fender, "Arnold"

**Brian M.** · October 19, 2011, 04:23 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

That has always scared me with those fancy wheels.

Originally posted by Tom Hendricks (23758)

Make sure you don't whack the fender, "Arnold"

**Dick W.** · October 19, 2011, 05:26 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Originally posted by Brian McHale (28809)

That has always scared me with those fancy wheels.

I peeled the top coat of paint off a '65 396 that we were getting ready to restore. Thank goodness we were taking the car apart rather that putting it back together.

I have a 11 1/2# composite dead blow hammer I use. Usually if you drive the car a few miles and retighten the wheels you are OK. I always mark the spinner and cone with a little clear fingernail polish. That way you can see movement.

Favorite nickname for the wheels is "Quick Falloff Wheel Option"

**Tom H.** · October 19, 2011, 05:33 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)

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Favorite nickname for the wheels is "Quick Falloff Wheel Option"

Now you're really gonna make Peter nervous !

**John H.** · October 19, 2011, 05:34 PM

Re: Why does this wheel keep coming off ?

From original poster's membership number he is a Newbie....Welcome
aboard.....However I'm curious as to whether you have joined your local
NCRS chapter? They are a very effective source (first hand) in helping you
get to the solution of your problem. Many times National members join
only at that level and it is a shame they don't take the most important
step in joining their local chapter. This point is made to help ALL MEMBERS
in taking this 2nd important step. Good Luck

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