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  • Tom N.
    Expired
    • May 6, 2012
    • 42

    #16
    Re: Painting My '65

    PPG DPLF Epoxy primer is a great two-part primer which comes in 6 colors,I use one that
    is a closest macth to the topcoat color. Get a data sheet at the store or you can go PPG website and
    get all their data info on everything they sell... the epoxy primer will fill but may need more coats
    then the urethanes... I know PPG does not recommend any of their urethane primers that will have
    a lacquer finish... you can use the old school acrylic primer surfacers[do not apply as the base coat on the entire car] for small things over the epoxy
    base coat, also the Evercoat polyester glaze ( 2 part) works great for minor repairs and scratches too.
    Remember, epoxy has great corrosion characteristics and would be the best for the frame too.

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    • Dick W.
      Former NCRS Director Region IV
      • June 30, 1985
      • 10483

      #17
      Re: Painting My '65

      Originally posted by Rich Pasqualone (49858)
      I use a catalized urethane primer then sand and use epoxy as a non sanding sealer coat spraying lacquer right on top.
      I used DP on the bare glass, K-36 as a primer surfacer, and DP, reduced 100% as a sealer under the top coat. Applied the sealer immediately prior to the top coat.
      Dick Whittington

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      • Mike M.
        Very Frequent User
        • July 24, 2011
        • 297

        #18
        Re: Painting My '65

        After about 2 months of prep we are going to paint the car tomorrow (6/7/12). Sprayed the rear bottom valance today just to see how this lacquer paint goes on. It seems to cover quite well, better than I thought it would; four coats completely hid the black epoxy primer. We will put on many more coats than that however. Laid down very well with little orange peel. Here are some photos showing final masking and the painted valance.IMG_4037.jpgIMG_4038.jpgIMG_4039.jpg

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        • Mike M.
          Very Frequent User
          • July 24, 2011
          • 297

          #19
          Re: Painting My '65

          Got some paint on the car this date.IMG_4041.jpgIMG_4042.jpg

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          • Mike M.
            Very Frequent User
            • July 24, 2011
            • 297

            #20
            Re: Painting My '65

            With the help of this forum I have Painted my '65 Coupe using lacquer. I learned a lot. I got the original look that I was after and am now putting the car back together. Thanks for the advice. Here are some recent photos as i try to get the car ready for a Top Flight try:IMG_4166.jpgIMG_4168.jpgIMG_4167.jpgIMG_4169.jpg

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            • Steven B.
              Very Frequent User
              • April 11, 2012
              • 233

              #21
              Re: Painting My '65

              Mike,
              Very nice indeed! Did you have to do any black? If you did, what did you use for the black and what was your choice for the paint applied to the engine?
              I'm eventually going to have to make the same effort. Mine has a twenty year old something with a clear coat.
              Steve

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              • Mike M.
                Very Frequent User
                • July 24, 2011
                • 297

                #22
                Re: Painting My '65

                Steve: I used some Engine Orange (rattle cans) from Long Island Corvette as some folks on this board said that their Chevy orange was real close to the original (there will be differing views on this point, but that worked good for me.) When say 'black' do you mean for the blackout black (firewall, inner fenders, etc)? I touched mine up with rattle cans- mostly Dupli Color Semi Gloss black. Same for some of the engine/frame/steering/etc, although on loose stuff, mostly bead blasted bare metal like that I primed first with a acid etch primer. The items that are suppose to be 'natural' I shot some Dupli Color Clear on (it does not say this is a satin clear but it has very little gloss to it. i scuffed everything prior to any prime/paint. Thanks and good luck. I stripped the entire car before shooting with the lacquer paint.

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                • Mike E.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • June 24, 2012
                  • 920

                  #23
                  Re: Painting My '65

                  Mike,
                  Looks really nice!!...I really like the look of non-poly (non-metallic) lacquer paint. IMO it has more of an OE look than the metalic colors.

                  Has anyone here tried stripping with baking soda blasting? I have one the little Eastwood baking soda blaster and tried it on a rear valance and compared to chemical stripping it was far easer and way less messy. I'm still working on the chassis so the body on mine is a way down the road, but I plan to try baking soda when I get to that point.

                  Mike

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                  • Tom K.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • February 26, 2008
                    • 167

                    #24
                    Re: Painting My '65

                    Mike, Looks great. Just curious why you used a dark (black) primer for a Goodwood Yellow car. Looks like it covered well, but I always thought that it was better to use a light color primer with a light color paint. How much paint did you end up using?
                    Tom

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                    • Mike M.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • July 24, 2011
                      • 297

                      #25
                      Re: Painting My '65

                      Tom: We probably should have used a lighter coloerd primer. However, I had a bunch of good epoxy primer and we shot that. I had stripped and then primed the rear valance with this epoxy and we test sprayed the lacquer paint over that. It coverd really well and so based on that we shot the rest of the car. I was really 'gun shy' as to what type of primer/sealer/etc to spray befoe the lacquer and so we just sprayed the epoxy (which had been pretty much been the one thing most of the experts on this site had agreed on) before spraying lacquer paint.) We sprayed enough epoxy that we were able to block that before spraying the top coat. I bought a gallon and 1/4 of paint which reduced one to one so I had 2 and 1/2 gallons of paint to spray. It should have been more. We sprayed probably 4 or 5 good coats of the paint on the car. On wet sanding we 'busted through' to the primer a couple of times. You can 'spot in' such a spot very easily with this lacquer and that is what we did. You cannot tell where we did those spots.
                      I am freshening up the car trying for a Top Flight designation (it had scored a 2nd Flight as it was when I bought it-a very original car-but the paint was mostly original and needed some help). I wanted the lacquer 'look' with the non buffed look in the jambs, gills, around the bunpers, etc. I achieved that and the car is very nice. There are as many ways to paint a car as there are painters. What I have stated above has worked pretty well for me. One other item where there is a heavy agreement is the need to strip the car prior to painting.
                      Thanks,
                      Mike

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