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  • Mark D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • June 30, 1988
    • 2142

    #16
    Re: 70 Laguna Gray

    I inspected the Laguna Gray car at Terry's for a client and it had a lot of new paint on it. As a matter of fact, I think it had a close encounter with a large tree. If you use it as a guide...don't use anything from the firewall, forward.
    Kramden

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    • Tom R.
      Expired
      • April 7, 2008
      • 135

      #17
      Re: 70 Laguna Gray

      Just back from meeting with John Ballard and great news. He took one look at my headlight bucket and said, "Oh, hell yes". As I had previously reported, this was the last remaining piece having paint on it, in good shape and still "shiny". I'll keep it until the end in this condition until the car is painted for reference. If I can find a used bucket quickly to substitute, I'm going to preserve it for those who might follow. Thanks for everyone who has helped.

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      • Kenneth H.
        Expired
        • October 27, 2008
        • 500

        #18
        Re: 70 Laguna Gray

        Tom,

        If possible, once you get the correct match, could you post the formula for others to use?

        Thanks.

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        • Dallas K.
          Frequent User
          • March 1, 2003
          • 58

          #19
          Re: 70 Laguna Gray

          IMG_5121.jpg Paul, I'm the one from the Des Moines Regionalyou talked to with the Laguna Gray paint standard. I talked with Tom Roberts and gave him my formula. I also told him I had this. Last time I loaned it out, I almost didn't get it back, so I'm a little reluctant to loan it out to someone I don't know. I mixed over 50 spray-outs to get my formula, and it is a prety good match.

          Dallas

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          • Tom R.
            Expired
            • April 7, 2008
            • 135

            #20
            Re: 70 Laguna Gray

            Dallas, thanks for stepping up with the picture. When we spoke, I did not relaize you had the standard. I accept that pictures via the internet are not exacting but it looks visually close to my original headlight bezel. When the formula you gave me was mixed and sprayed out it was no where close. It was greenish, or teal, and simply wasn't what I had envisioned or expecting. So, I'm going to assume that there was an issue during mixing. I can't ask you to borrow the standard but would like to know if you kept a spray out, or actual sample, etc. of your mix. If so, would you be willing to send that to me with promise of return? If not, then I would like to send you my headlight bezel for your comparison to the standard. Please consider and let me know.
            Thanks

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            • Paul O.
              Frequent User
              • August 31, 1990
              • 1716

              #21
              Re: 70 Laguna Gray

              Dallas

              Thank you for replying to this discussion and I understand about loaning them out some people do not understand the importance of a paint plate like these. These are mostly body shop and most car owners they seen just do not appreciate what they are unlike a restoration shop and car owners that are interested in originality. Dallas please remember when the paint standard needs a new home think of me first. Also let Tom send his bezel to you to double verify it has the original finish.

              Paul

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              • Kenneth B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 1984
                • 2084

                #22
                Re: 70 Laguna Gray

                Maybe it is just me but I think that the color chips in the 1970 dealer sample book are right on.
                65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15573

                  #23
                  Re: 70 Laguna Gray

                  Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
                  Maybe it is just me but I think that the color chips in the 1970 dealer sample book are right on.
                  Ken,

                  They may be or they may not be. Those are ink printed on paper. They are just as accurate as your computer monitor. Do you feel lucky?
                  Terry

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                  • Mark D.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 30, 1988
                    • 2142

                    #24
                    Re: 70 Laguna Gray

                    I'm no paint eagle eye/mastermind but, these have really helped me when inspecting cars. Of those cars I thought were mostly original, the paint and the chip(s) matched very well. Maybe the paint AND the chip have changed over the years. I have 1960 through 1974.

                    Kramden

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                    • Paul O.
                      Frequent User
                      • August 31, 1990
                      • 1716

                      #25
                      Re: 70 Laguna Gray

                      The advantage I see in the paint standards verses the original paint chip books is on the metallic size and appearance in the paint. For the most part the paint books help in seeing the correct shade and remember there is an allowable tolerance to ether side. That 72 book look very familiar .

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                      • Mark D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 1988
                        • 2142

                        #26
                        Re: 70 Laguna Gray

                        Originally posted by Paul Oslansky (18046)
                        That 72 book look very familiar .
                        Got that from Paul 'The Ohio Kid' Oslansky
                        Kramden

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                        • Kenneth B.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • August 31, 1984
                          • 2084

                          #27
                          Re: 70 Laguna Gray

                          Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                          Ken,

                          They may be or they may not be. Those are ink printed on paper. They are just as accurate as your computer monitor. Do you feel lucky?
                          I have checked the 70 maroon & bronze original paint on my Corvettes & they matched the chips for shade. I am not talking about the flake the way the paint layes.
                          65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                          What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                          • Tom R.
                            Expired
                            • April 7, 2008
                            • 135

                            #28
                            Re: 70 Laguna Gray

                            Those Dealer sample paint books posted here by Mark Donnally is what John Ballard has. He used it for a quick comparison to my existing headlight bezel. And since that is all I have, I have no choice but to go with it. None of the previous formulas supplied by other members were even close to the Dealer sample (or my bezel) even taking into account the sample is on paper, etc, etc. My bezel is being matched as we speak. I'll follow up after we spray it out.

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                            • Dallas K.
                              Frequent User
                              • March 1, 2003
                              • 58

                              #29
                              Re: 70 Laguna Gray

                              I took some pictures of the paint chip laying on the car in different places on the car. Lighting has a big effect on the color of laguna gray. But, as you can see, the paint chip matches the car no matter what lighting it is in, because the chip changes as well. Depending on the light, the chip and the car will go from a blue gray to a green gray color. It is definitely not the color of the car in the proteam link in post #10. But, like I said, lighting is everything with laguna gray. In direct sun, it can look more green gray. Shade gives it more the blue gray color. You can see how lighting affects the color with the chip also. My car was red oxide primer when I stripped the paint. So I went back with red oxide primer. If you do a spray out that is not on red oxide primer, you may get a different shade or color. I gave Tom my formula that I used to paint my car shown in the attached pictures.

                              IMG_5124.jpgIMG_5125.jpgIMG_5130.jpgIMG_5132.jpg

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                              • Kenn S.
                                Very Frequent User
                                • September 10, 2009
                                • 173

                                #30
                                Re: 70 Laguna Gray

                                I have a 1970 Laguna Gray car, and I very much believe the paint to be original (based on the bonding strips and their appearance, as well as the fender glass all around, I'm pretty sure the car hasn't been sanded or wrecked). The laquer paint is very cracked on the T-Tops and faded to varying degrees on other top surfaces, but the door jambs are very fine. If it's at all helpful.

                                I found this on the 'Net a while ago:

                                Huge supplier of Automotive Paint, Auto Body Supplies, Airbrush Equipment, Car Detailing Supplies, Pinstripe Paint, Spray Guns & Safety Respirators at Wholesale Prices. Our items are factory direct and we carry a wide variety of Top Quality Brands.


                                They used to have an image of paint chips for 1970 Corvettes, and I know they (at least used to) mix Laguna Gray. How close it is I can't yet say, but the owner is apparently very big into originality. I have a paint chip brochure...not the booklet like above, but more like something you'd pick up in the showroom. I'll have to see how well it matches...

                                All that said, I didn't see here where the formula was...did I miss it? I'd be very interested to have it as well. It's an incredible color.
                                -Kenn
                                1970 LS-5
                                1970 350/300
                                1980 L-48
                                2004 LS-1

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