Engine built date

[Vinnie P.]

Re: Engine built date

Thanks Vinnie, So if you notice, Gary Parris joined in 2005 so he never got it.

Rich

So true...I got it from the CD with all issues of The Restorer that's available from the NCRS store

[Joe R.]

Re: Engine built date

Mike, I kinda remember that article but since we DO NOT have direct online access to every article here it's hard to find stuff. I have every Restorer since I joined 25 years ago, and back then I even bought the special "multi-pack" of earlier Restorers including the reprint of "The Best of Early Issues". I KNOW we can buy them on CD and search, but how many do that. IMO, the CD should be free to all members, and/or we should have every Article online here for searching for EVERY member.....Just my opinion, but as members I feel we should have this "perk".

It's so hard to search through paper for me these days. I'm so impatient....I need to do a search online to find stuff. Comes from being a Computer/Electronics engineer and using computer tools all my life.

Rich

Hi Rich,

I have the exact same thought. Let's get all the Restorer magazines online! Maybe we should give our fine IT crew a chance to catch their breath after putting together the online classifieds, though! I think it would help us and be a great selling point to get some younger folks to join the NCRS.

I'm another impatient EE who has worked with computers for most of his life.

Joe

[John H.]

Re: Engine built date

John, Thanks for the clarification. Sometimes the JG's are implying one thing, but saying another. It's says "Typical 2-6 weeks" but doesn't explicitly say something like..."to as much as 6 months".

Is it possible that a engine got installed in a car with greater than 6 months time difference from engine cast date to car build date? If that happened, what would the Judging Field result be (in your opinion).....full deduct because it's outside 6 months?

Reason I ask, a friend has a triple black '67 L71, stamp pad got machined years ago, so no broach marks, and Assy stamp is gone, but the vin derivative is visible and in IMO very original, just faint. The cast date of this '351 block is 6 months and 10 days before the car build date. IIRC Nov cast date, May car build. No docs, no tank sticker. Could that be possible in 1967? Full deduct, partial deduct?

Rich

Rich -

We judge based on what's "typical of factory production", with the maximum six-month span to recognize the few strange things that happened to place parts WAY out of the "typical" range. The known survey data we have on '67 big-blocks shows no more than two months between cast and engine assembly dates for May/June-built engines. Based on what's "typical of factory production", I'd judge the date as a failure (175 points). Block judging would stop there, so there would be no additional deductions for the pad stamps or surface.

[Richard M.]

Re: Engine built date

Thanks John, I advised the potential buyer this could be a questionable issue if he ever considered judging. He bought the car because he wanted it and understood the information.

It's a nice car, but needs a little attention. I may have it here this winter for a "refreshening". I'll be able to check it over very closely then.

Rich

[Mel H.]

Re: Engine built date

I think his question arises from engine build to car build. Car 7223 was completed apx Jan 21, 1963.

IIRC, don't have the '63 JG in front of me, but "Typical Factory Production" engine build is thought to be around 2 to (4 or 6) weeks before car build.....again IIRC. A engine build in Nov 1962 may be considered a bit non TFP, but not out of the question IMO. My old '63 coupe #9664, had a 300hp cast Feb 12, assembled Feb 18. Car build Feb 27.

The typical 6 month "window of opportunity" discussed pertains usually to ancillaries like dated bits related to engine.... carburetor, manifolds, alternator, regulator, etc.

As another comparison, my car is just 6 ahead of yours (7217), has block casting L28 (Dec 28th, 1962), engine pad F0102RE (assembly Jan 2nd, 1963), and car assembly Jan 21st, '63. So about 3 weeks between. This is not to suggest yours is not 'in line' as longer times could be logical given LIFO inventories. Hope this helps.