Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

[Jason R.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

Dave,Car was built F06 June 6th, 1970 #11477. Being an early June build it is just before the 12,000 range and won't help with narrowing down the key change. Your 1970 must be have been built about three days later than #11477?

[Thomas H.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

My car, being a very early 71 build has many "leftovers" from 70. I have no docs on the car as the tank sticker had disintegrated so I can't say if the alarm system was factory installed or possibly dealer installed with some leftover parts.

Lets thicken the plot a bit. Below is a picture of the switch installed in the car. You'll see that the body appears to be drilled for the newer style switch and the switch is installed with some sort of escutcheon to make up the difference in hole size. I suppose I just contradicted myself there. If the body was drilled for the new style switch, then it probably wasn't dealer installed..........

I also found a picture of the alarm horn and the Rockwell fiberglass tag. I don't believe that the back end was ever hit or repaired.

I've only been able to trace the car back two owners. The car was bought off a used car lot in the late 70's so the search stopped there. The NCRS document service turned up nothing as mine is in a group of serial numbers (S/N 1632) for which there is no data.

Ok, for some reason the picture upload is not working this morning....... I'll get the pics up later today

Tom

Pics.....

[Dave S.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

Dave,Car was built F06 June 6th, 1970 #11477. Being an early June build it is just before the 12,000 range and won't help with narrowing down the key change. Your 1970 must be have been built about three days later than #11477?

Jason,
Thanks. Until we get something to the contrary we,ll stick with the 12,500 approximate change over.

[Dave S.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

Pics.....

The key cylinder looks like mine but the escutcheon (bezel) looks different. From memory I recall the B & S type switch had a smaller hole in the rear valence than the L70 glovebox key style.

[Dennis D.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

my 12981 (june 22) car has the door key for the alarm. Bought from originali owner in 72

[Gary B.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

Here are pictures of what I believe is the original key to my 71 (Sept 5, 1970 build). I'm interested to know if it is real.

Tom

Interesting difference in the keyways between Jason's key on the left and Tom's on the right.

Gary

Side-by-Side II.jpg

[Gary B.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

And here's an NOS alarm key blank that I have.

Gary

NOS Blank.jpg

[Jason R.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

Very good observation. I was looking more at the stamping and never noticed the difference in the blade. I see your blank is different from the other two. Interesting!

[Jeffrey S.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

Here are 2 pictures of B&S alarm keys. The keys on the left in each picture are original to my '69 and the ones on the right are NOS purchased about 20 years ago. The keyways on the 1st photo are pretty much the same but on the other side (side without the numbers) they are very different. Also, under the numbers on the later key is a "B". I have no idea what that is for. Hope this helps.
Jeff

[Peter L.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

Jeff - What I have observed as far as the grooves on the backside of the original 68-70E UA6 alarm lock keys are as your photos shown is that the original keys with the "H" key numbered alarm lock switches have the single groove on the back side & the original keys with the "C" key numbered alarm lock switches have the 2 grooves. Some replacement Briggs & Stratton & other supplier alarm lock keys available at Locksmiths typically have a wider single groove on the backside so the keys can be used on both keyway alarm lock switches. I have seen the addition "letter", e.g, the B; but it is not very common. Pete

[Terry M.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

Here are what I think are the originals from 1970 #2161.





Sorry the pictures are fuzzy. I guess my phone doesn't do close-ups well.

Since this thread has migrated to the question of the size of the hole I will post the 1970 AIM page I have with handwritten notes on it when I can get to the scanner tomorrow.

[Terry M.]

Re: Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?

1970 AIM UA6 sheet A4:

Well neither the NCRS server nor Photo-bucket will allow me to upload the pdf, so you are all out of luck. I guess the system is letting only me know and not allowing me to share. I had the same problem with several images Ralph Spears sent to me showing his original early style lock and a 1972 lock.

There is an escutcheon for the old style shown on the AIM page I wanted to illustrate here.
3897449 ESCUTCHEON This escutcheon appears to be aprt of the original drawing done 1-22-70
On 4-23-70 the lock was changed from 3986859 to 3990868 ECR 29885

BTW: No gasket is shown.