small holes in inner fender well

[Ruedi K.]

Hello together,

I have a question. I noticed some small holes on the inside of the left hand side, inner fender. I can't figure out, what their purpose is. Are they for clips to guide the wire harness?

Thank you in advance for an answer and have a nice rest of the Sunday.

Ruedi

[Joseph R.]

Re: small holes in inner fender well

Ruedi, my 64 convertible with few options only has three holes for wire harness clips in the driver's side inner fender, nearer the top edge. Curious what your inner fender to fender bond line looks like (covered by cloth in your photo). Joe

[Leif A.]

Re: small holes in inner fender well

Ruedi,Agree with Joseph...three holes for wiring harness. Additionally, three holes for the voltage regulator although your holes aren't in a pattern for a regulator, at least as far as I can detect from your picture.

[Ruedi K.]

Re: small holes in inner fender well

Hello again
Thank you for the replies. So I need only 3 of the holes. My voltage regulator is on the passenger side as original.
Maybe somebody drilled more holes for more clips even when not necessary.

Another question. Could somebody please post good pictures of how the clips anf wires look like on the inner fender well driver side and maybe also the passenger side (1963, 64). I will be installing a new wiring harness from M&H soon. Maybe I need some more clips, what kind of clips are used on the inner fender well?

Thank you again.

Will take a better photo of the fender well (fender to fender bond line, Joe) Can post that tomorrow.

Thank you again

Ruedi

[Joseph R.]

Re: small holes in inner fender well

Here is what my driver's inner fender area looks like on my 64 convertible currently. Rivets in my fender to inner fender joint will be subject of separate post, but it is why I'm curious what your bond line looks like. The finish on my bond line is appropriately rough from what I can gather from researching the archives. Hope this helps but seek other sources and compare. Joe

[Ruedi K.]

Re: small holes in inner fender well

Hello Joe

Thanks for the picture. Will post a photo of the bond line tomorrow.

Regards

Ruedi

[Ruedi K.]

Re: small holes in inner fender well

So, I took some more pictures. I can see, there are still two metal? clips there. But there are more holes there?

I would really appreciate photos of a 63, respectively 64 Corvette engine bay where I can, where all those clips belong and what kind of clips are used. It is much easier to work with the photos than the AIM.

Would really appreciate your help, you can contact me via PM, if you would like to send hi-res photos of the wiring harness routing.

Thank you

Ruedi

[Joseph R.]

clip picture and passenger side harness routing

Ruedi, here is the passenger side you requested, and a picture of the clip on my driver's side inner fender. The clip in this 64 appears to be (now) stiff plastic, and you can see the extra loop maybe could be bent onto the retaining clip to hold another small bundle.

Thanks for pics of your inner fender lip bond. My understanding is that these particular bonds and any oozing bonding agent were quickly rough cut/ground at the factory with something like 60 grit. I see some detailed nicely in restorations and some left more crudely original. I don't know how they decided where to mask for painting at the factory, i.e., where the edge of the exterior body laquer meets the black inner fender paint in relation to this bond line. I also don't know if these particular bonds often separated in service during normal wear and tear.

I think the coolant hose routing in this picture of a 64 imust be incorrect because the hose is pinched at the hinge area. I believe I've seen drawings with the hose routed inside the hood support but I don't have my AIM yet. [Note: My 1964 AIM came today and on Page D180 it shows the coolant hose routed outside the hood support as shown in the photo. The AIM is a tremendous resource for its modest cost.]

Hope this helps, Joe

[Ruedi K.]

Re: clip picture and passenger side harness routing

Hello Joe

Thank you again. Yes, this helps. So they are black plastic straps used in this area. And thank you for your interesting thoughts about the fender lip bond.

Now it's time I replace my old wiring harness, which has been "modified" at some point and definitely needs replacement (very brittle).

Regards

Ruedi

[Monte M.]

Re: clip picture and passenger side harness routing

Ruedi,
Some 64 Corvettes came with fuel injection. The air cleaner fastened to the inner fender with two toward the top and one about 4" lower. A few of the holes look lower than the others. Take a look on the wheel side of the fender well. You should see three dents about the size of a pencil eraser. If the small indentations are still there, see if they line up with any of your holes. If they are not there, there is actually a better chance they may line up with some of your holes.

Just an idea of what they might be. Was your car originally a fuel injected car. Is there a hole in the drivers side of the radiator support? Is there holes in the bond strip on the inside of your fender just below the emblems on the side of the car. Up inside behind the battery on the passengers side, easier to see on the drivers side.
Best of luck,
Monte

[Ruedi K.]

Re: clip picture and passenger side harness routing

Hello Monte

Thank you for the answer.

No, I don't think that my 1963 Corvette has ever been a fuel injected car. But one never knows. I bought the car in the 80s, owner passed away a long time before.

I took some more pictures, also from the wheel side and I also took pictures of the radiator support(driver side).

[Ruedi K.]

Re: clip picture and passenger side harness routing

Some more photos

[Ruedi K.]

Re: clip picture and passenger side harness routing

And the last photos.

Thank you in advance for further replies.

Oh, now I realize I have a big hole there on the driver side radiator support. On a carburetor car, should that be without one?

Ruedi

[Monte M.]

Re: clip picture and passenger side harness routing

Ruedi,
It is very confusing. The oval hole in the radiator support is indeed for fuel injection. But, all the service replacement were typically F.I. if I am not mistaken.
If you can, take a few pictures of the front side of the radiator support. Service replacements were the 64 style supports.
Is your block original to the car?
I have enclosed a picture where the air cleaner bolts came through the fender. These ones in the picture are a bit rounded from the air cleaner coming loose. This is very typical.
I do not see any signs of the holes where the fuel injection emblem would have mounted.
It looks like the fender wells have undercoating on them. The recess would be hiding under that.
It looks like someone just may have put some extra holes for some other reason. Over the years it is amazing what happens to some of these car. Especially the 63's. There was a time nobody wanted them.
My buddy had a 69 big block. Most of his friends had LT-1's or big blocks back in the day. He saw a Split Window in good condition for $1,000 and bought it. All his friends laughed at him. Many years later he is getting the last laugh on that matter.
My point is, his car had many thing that were altered for what seemed no reasonalbe reason either.
I was lucky enough to get a really original car.
Best of luck with the car. If there is anything else I can do, just let me know.
monte


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[Ruedi K.]

Re: clip picture and passenger side harness routing

Hello Monte

Thank you again. No, the car has now a 327/300HP engine date A44 (January 64), even though it is a real 1963 car. It also has a really strange engine pad (see thread strange engine pad, I posted some time ago). Transmission was also incorrect (62 T-10 with another VIN than my car). I replaced the transmission now with a 4 speed Muncie.

I will go and take some pictures of the radiator support. Now one can get the correct style 1963 radiator support for carbureted cars w/o Air and w/o Fuelie. So if it proves to be a 64 replacement support, I will change this out. Because it looks stupid when the car is carbureted and there is this hole :-)

Thanks

Ruedi