Re-stamping pads

[Michael G.]

Re: Why not "re-stamp" everything?

....Wanna buy some for your own pleasure?...

[Terry M.]

Re: Why not "re-stamp" everything?

I wish we had a "like" button here -- I would use it.

[Wayne H.]

Re: Why not "re-stamp" everything?

Full disclosure upon the sale of a restamped car eliminates all the arguments pro and con.

If GM kept original records, all this discussion over restamps would be nonsense.

Really, how many 60 years old cars have the original block in them.
The block is not like the diamond in a diamond ring, it's just one part of many parts of a car.

[Larry E.]

Re: Why not "re-stamp" everything?

[QUOTE=Wayne Hagopian (65110);866583]Full disclosure upon the sale of a restamped car eliminates all the arguments pro and con.

If GM kept original records, all this discussion over restamps would be nonsense.

HOW DO WE REALLY KNOW THEY(GM) THEY DIDN'T? WHEN I TALKED TO ALAN COLVIN YEARS AGO HE CLAIMED
THEY STILL HAVE THEM BUT WON'T RELEASE THEM FOR LEGAL REASONS. IF THEY EVER DID THERE WOULD BE
A LOT OF EYES ROLL WITH THE NCRS. JMHO >> LARRY

[Roy S.]

Re: Re-stamping pads

A thread over on another site made me wonder when re-stamping of engine pads for deceptive purposes is thought to have really begun. It certainly was before 1985, the first time I saw it, hopefully someone here will have a firm idea.
Thanks,

[Bill M.]

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Telling a buyer that this car has a restamped correctly dated engine probably only happens at the cars first sale after disclosure

[Michael G.]

Re: Re-stamping pads

Thanks Roy

It all reminds me of my first ‘63 SWC, which was pretty-well trashed and, I think, on its fourth (or fifth) engine by 1970. I unloaded it for $1,200 and, I’m guessing that somewhere out there you’ll find a red/red FI coupe with a perfect pad, and a suitcase full of real documentation. To think that I could have just parked it in a chicken coupe and let it be naturally entombed in feathers and stuff, then sold it on ebay for 6 figures, just brings a tear to my eye. Oh well...

[Frank D.]

Re: Re-stamping pads

Thanks Roy

It all reminds me of my first ‘63 SWC, which was pretty-well trashed and, I think, on its fourth (or fifth) engine by 1970. I unloaded it for $1,200 and, I’m guessing that somewhere out there you’ll find a red/red FI coupe with a perfect pad, and a suitcase full of real documentation. To think that I could have just parked it in a chicken coupe and let it be naturally entombed in feathers and stuff, then sold it on ebay for 6 figures, just brings a tear to my eye. Oh well...

Its prob a big tank Z06 by now...with air conditioning...

[Kenneth B.]

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It started happening just as Bloomington gold created the box that said if you did not have an original engine you could not get a gold certificate. No engine number silver. Re- stamping was born. The initial stampers were all keyed to that, for profit. That simple. Not much different than when did derestoring a car for Benchmark happen. when Bloomington showed there first and second example of benchmark cars. Both restored in worst areas then messaged back to be benchmark.

You only had to have your eyes open to see it, the mighty dollar was in full bloom by 1980.

Yes Jerry I saw first repro trim tags late 70’s early 80’s.

I know Billy C (RIP) was selling trim tags & VIN tags in the early 80'S maybe before. because there were a lot of theft recoveries that had no tags.

[Dick W.]

Re: Re-stamping pads

I know Billy C (RIP) was selling trim tags & VIN tags in the early 80'S maybe before. because there were a lot of theft recoveries that had no tags.

They actually came out of the North East area, VT or CT if I remember correctly. I watched a friend keep changing trim tags on his car thinking he could get one that would pass muster. This was before the "branding" of cars was in effect

[Michael G.]

Re: Re-stamping pads

...and an original big block hood

[Dan A.]

Re: Why not "re-stamp" everything?

I wish we had a "like" button here -- I would use it.

Me too Terry. I'd like to be able to give recognition to some posts. I realize there is a rate this thread button at the top of each thread page. But that indicates something about a thread and not an individual post.

[Dan A.]

Re: Why not "re-stamp" everything?

Full disclosure upon the sale of a restamped car eliminates all the arguments pro and con.

If GM kept original records, all this discussion over restamps would be nonsense.

Really, how many 60 years old cars have the original block in them.
The block is not like the diamond in a diamond ring, it's just one part of many parts of a car.

Usually. I would say I respectfully disagree with your statement. But not in this case. I disagree but not respectfully. I find your first sentence naive.

As for how many still have their original engines, I don't know. But I have a few and have owned and seen others that did too. I for one do view the engine as akin to the diamond in a ring and not equal in value to say a valve cover.

Back to on topic, I first recall seeing restamps somewhere in the mid or late 1970's. Replacement tags in the mid 70's.

[Wayne H.]

Re: Why not "re-stamp" everything?

Usually. I would say I respectfully disagree with your statement. But not in this case. I disagree but not respectfully. I find your first sentence naive.

As for how many still have their original engines, I don't know. But I have a few and have owned and seen others that did too. I for one do view the engine as akin to the diamond in a ring and not equal in value to say a valve cover.

I'll answer by using your own words: "Usually. I would say I respectfully disagree with your statement. But not in this case. I disagree but not respectfully."

[Michael G.]