Re: Mark and Kevin
Plenty of power and a blast to drive I put 5k on mine last year, the AC would close the deal for me.
Kevin
Plenty of power and a blast to drive I put 5k on mine last year, the AC would close the deal for me.
Kevin
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Re: Mark and Kevin
Plenty of power and a blast to drive I put 5k on mine last year, the AC would close the deal for me.
KevinComment
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Re: Mark and Kevin
I'm 48 and I think my left knee would agree with you.
TonyComment
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Re: Mark and Kevin
I'm 48 and I think my left knee would agree with you.
TonyComment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
The only folks that do not like 300HP powerglide cars are the folks who have never owned one! They are fantastic cars to DRIVE! Once your ego gets over the fact that you convertible is not a 4 speed and you realize the driving pleasure the automatic provides, you will always have at least one.
Glides cars are ususally in much better structural condition over their life as they have not been subjected to the thrashing most all 4 speed Covettes enjoyed. Glide cars ususally also have LOTS of options! That chilly wind (A/C) comes to mind!
Glide cars do not enjoy the resale appeal that follows a 4 speed car. Again it must be ego as I am not sure why anyone would want a 435HP car other than ego since 435HP are POOR driver cars. I believe that a glide will eliminate 50% of the potential buyers looking for equiivalent cars when compared to a 4 speed car. Does not necessarily mean a glide will bring a lot less money, just not as many potential buyers. Just remember, the Corvette you buy today is the Corvette you will sell tomorrow. 300HP glide cars are as good a driving Corvette as you can purchase. And yes they do come with positration! I
I think it boils down to why you are buying a Corvette. Investment, ego, flight judging, driving, waxing, staring at in your garage, keeping up with your buddies. Everyone of those reasons will provide a perfect Corvette choice and that perfect Corvette choice will change with each reason.
Only you know what your goal/reason is to purchase a C2 Corvette and that will probably change after you purchase your car. I own glide cars and 4 speed cars. For driving and cruising it is hard to beat a POWERGLIDE convertible car!
I think a glide hurts the value of a Coupe much more than a convertible. If it's a glide Coupe and it does NOT have A/C, it better be CHEAP! A glide convertible will sell very well if it has factory A/C.
A no A/C Powerglide coupe would be a great car to buy. Change it to a 4 speed and add Vintage A/C. All of sudden everyone thinks it's a desirable car! That just might be your best buy (cheap) IF you are looking for driving enjoyment an originality is not your goal!Comment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
The only folks that do not like 300HP powerglide cars are the folks who have never owned one! They are fantastic cars to DRIVE! Once your ego gets over the fact that you convertible is not a 4 speed and you realize the driving pleasure the automatic provides, you will always have at least one.
Glides cars are ususally in much better structural condition over their life as they have not been subjected to the thrashing most all 4 speed Covettes enjoyed. Glide cars ususally also have LOTS of options! That chilly wind (A/C) comes to mind!
Glide cars do not enjoy the resale appeal that follows a 4 speed car. Again it must be ego as I am not sure why anyone would want a 435HP car other than ego since 435HP are POOR driver cars. I believe that a glide will eliminate 50% of the potential buyers looking for equiivalent cars when compared to a 4 speed car. Does not necessarily mean a glide will bring a lot less money, just not as many potential buyers. Just remember, the Corvette you buy today is the Corvette you will sell tomorrow. 300HP glide cars are as good a driving Corvette as you can purchase. And yes they do come with positration! I
I think it boils down to why you are buying a Corvette. Investment, ego, flight judging, driving, waxing, staring at in your garage, keeping up with your buddies. Everyone of those reasons will provide a perfect Corvette choice and that perfect Corvette choice will change with each reason.
Only you know what your goal/reason is to purchase a C2 Corvette and that will probably change after you purchase your car. I own glide cars and 4 speed cars. For driving and cruising it is hard to beat a POWERGLIDE convertible car!
I think a glide hurts the value of a Coupe much more than a convertible. If it's a glide Coupe and it does NOT have A/C, it better be CHEAP! A glide convertible will sell very well if it has factory A/C.
A no A/C Powerglide coupe would be a great car to buy. Change it to a 4 speed and add Vintage A/C. All of sudden everyone thinks it's a desirable car! That just might be your best buy (cheap) IF you are looking for driving enjoyment an originality is not your goal!Comment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
Mike. The car I'm considering is a C2 coupe with the 327/300 PG. You ask a great question: what are my intentions? I guess to answer that, I'd have to say, enjoyment now and resale down the road. Both factors have to be important. Your thoughts?
TonyComment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
Mike. The car I'm considering is a C2 coupe with the 327/300 PG. You ask a great question: what are my intentions? I guess to answer that, I'd have to say, enjoyment now and resale down the road. Both factors have to be important. Your thoughts?
TonyComment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
A coupe with a glide will drive great! From a resale point of view, "I" think it must have factory A/C. Not that you will use the A/C that much but the next buyer MUST have a "hook" to purchase this car and A/C is that hook on a powerglide coupe.
Look at lot's of cars and buy the best car you can afford. Most buyer's make the mistake that they do not look at a lot of cars and buy the car that is local or "easy" to buy! Let's face it, most buyers are LAZY!!!
Spend $2,500 on travel and you will be rewarded. The more cars you look at the more informed a buyer you will be! You will save far more than the $2,500 spent on travel by buying a better car for a cheaper price as there is always a seller that really "NEEDS TO SELL"! It's hard for a lot of seller's to watch that ready and willing buyer to drive off and never be seen again. Use that to your advantage.
The biggest problem you will have NOW is the "Barrett Jackson" surge in prices for the next 3 months. After this auction the interest and prices will be way up! Be patient and you will not be a victim of this yearly endulgence!!!!Comment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
A coupe with a glide will drive great! From a resale point of view, "I" think it must have factory A/C. Not that you will use the A/C that much but the next buyer MUST have a "hook" to purchase this car and A/C is that hook on a powerglide coupe.
Look at lot's of cars and buy the best car you can afford. Most buyer's make the mistake that they do not look at a lot of cars and buy the car that is local or "easy" to buy! Let's face it, most buyers are LAZY!!!
Spend $2,500 on travel and you will be rewarded. The more cars you look at the more informed a buyer you will be! You will save far more than the $2,500 spent on travel by buying a better car for a cheaper price as there is always a seller that really "NEEDS TO SELL"! It's hard for a lot of seller's to watch that ready and willing buyer to drive off and never be seen again. Use that to your advantage.
The biggest problem you will have NOW is the "Barrett Jackson" surge in prices for the next 3 months. After this auction the interest and prices will be way up! Be patient and you will not be a victim of this yearly endulgence!!!!Comment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
good advice. Thanks.Comment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
good advice. Thanks.Comment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
Hi Tony:
Last June I bought a 67 convertible with factory AC and Powerglide. I had a list of "mandatory" criteria that included red exterior, black interior, small block, numbers matching, and factory AC. On the transmission, I figured I could go either way. I lookd at a lot of cars, and as it turned out, I ended up with a Powerglide car that met all my mandatory criteria.
I do think that the vast majority of Corvette buyers want a 4-speed, and some of my friends think I was crazy to get a Powerglide car. I have mixed feelings about the situation. My daily driver is a 5-speed that is a lot of fun to drive, but we have a lot of traffic in my area that tires my clutch leg sometimes. My wife's car has a really nice 4-speed automatic, and I find that I enjoy that driving experience too.
In terms of the driving experience with a Powerglide, it's not as responsive as a 4-speed, but the convenience of the automatic is nice to have in traffic.
For the next year or two I'll be taking my car through the Flight Judging process, so the Powerglide will stay for the time being. However, once I'm through with Flight Judging, I plan to swap out the Powerglide for a 700R4 4-speed automatic. I'll keep the original Powerglide so that it can be reinstalled by a future owner to restore the original configuration.
The 700R4 has a 3.06 first gear (lower than even the wide ratio Muncie), and it has a 0.7 overdrive fourth gear. I think this will give me the best of all worlds, with great off-the-line response, an overdrive top gear, and no clutch pedal to manage in traffic.
Bowtie Overdrives sells a kit to put the 700R4 in a C2, and reportedly no cutting is necessary other than shortening the drive shaft a few inches. Ecklers even sells an OEM style 4-speed automatic shift plate for the Powerglide console.
Since this is my long term plan, I'm okay with the Powerglide for the time being. However, if I was going to buy a car and keep the stock transmission in it forever, I think I would get one with the 4-speed manual.
In the end, I think the choice of automatic vs. manual is really just a personal preference, so you should think carefully about what your own preference is. In terms of market value, my perception is that in today's market the 4-speed manual is more desirable and would probably bring a higher price. On the other hand, as we all get older and develop bad knees, the automatics might become more desirable.Comment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
Hi Tony:
Last June I bought a 67 convertible with factory AC and Powerglide. I had a list of "mandatory" criteria that included red exterior, black interior, small block, numbers matching, and factory AC. On the transmission, I figured I could go either way. I lookd at a lot of cars, and as it turned out, I ended up with a Powerglide car that met all my mandatory criteria.
I do think that the vast majority of Corvette buyers want a 4-speed, and some of my friends think I was crazy to get a Powerglide car. I have mixed feelings about the situation. My daily driver is a 5-speed that is a lot of fun to drive, but we have a lot of traffic in my area that tires my clutch leg sometimes. My wife's car has a really nice 4-speed automatic, and I find that I enjoy that driving experience too.
In terms of the driving experience with a Powerglide, it's not as responsive as a 4-speed, but the convenience of the automatic is nice to have in traffic.
For the next year or two I'll be taking my car through the Flight Judging process, so the Powerglide will stay for the time being. However, once I'm through with Flight Judging, I plan to swap out the Powerglide for a 700R4 4-speed automatic. I'll keep the original Powerglide so that it can be reinstalled by a future owner to restore the original configuration.
The 700R4 has a 3.06 first gear (lower than even the wide ratio Muncie), and it has a 0.7 overdrive fourth gear. I think this will give me the best of all worlds, with great off-the-line response, an overdrive top gear, and no clutch pedal to manage in traffic.
Bowtie Overdrives sells a kit to put the 700R4 in a C2, and reportedly no cutting is necessary other than shortening the drive shaft a few inches. Ecklers even sells an OEM style 4-speed automatic shift plate for the Powerglide console.
Since this is my long term plan, I'm okay with the Powerglide for the time being. However, if I was going to buy a car and keep the stock transmission in it forever, I think I would get one with the 4-speed manual.
In the end, I think the choice of automatic vs. manual is really just a personal preference, so you should think carefully about what your own preference is. In terms of market value, my perception is that in today's market the 4-speed manual is more desirable and would probably bring a higher price. On the other hand, as we all get older and develop bad knees, the automatics might become more desirable.Comment
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Re: C2 value question: auto or 4spd?
Mike,
Your words are depressing me; the owner of a 1967 327/300 Coupe with Powerglide and no A/C! All kidding aside I find the car very well mannered, smooth and dependable. A real treat to drive and it shows very nicely. Sometimes I do yearn for an extra shift or two (TH350 or 200-R4) but for sunny, Sunday afternoon cruises it is an absolute delight. As to power, for my kind of driving it is more than adequate. My yearly trip to the dragstrip and 4-5 runs (Club event) shows about 15.9 secs @ 87mph. That's not fast but I would not label it a dog. It is bang on what I used to manage with a 1979 L-82/TH350.
Was it cheap to buy? Not cheap per se but certainly less than a convertible, four-speed in comparable condition. What really attracted me to the car was its solid, pristine condition. The former owner actually polished the frame each year. It is that clean. The engine block is NOM but a period-correct 327. Above the block (heads, intake, etc.) is original. The history of that block is not known to me and I can only surmise that someone threw a rod at one point. I enjoy the car very much and have no regrets about the PG. Nor in fact the lack of A/C. In this part of Canada last summer we did not have one day go over 30C (86F).
I have never navel-gazed about getting my money back on sale. But based on real market (not Arizona) prices I certainly wouldn't take a bath.Comment
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